Hi All

• PC: Windows 10 Pro x64
• TIA 15 update 3.
• Step 7 Basic
• Step7 safety basic
• StartDrive
  
• WinCC Advanced V15
• TIA fully updated as of this morning
  

I've recently upgraded to V15 from V14. I have several older HMI PC stations (V14) and I am writing a new HMI (V15) in WinCC advanced.

Unfortunately. I'm getting the following error when compiling both new and existing HMI projects for PC stations.

"Compilation failed. Please contact SIEMENS customer support."

The error is generated when the compiler gets to 100%. When the error is generated a Siemens error reporting window appears after TIA is closed.

The following is an excerpt from the report bundle from the error reporting window (also attached).

• SourceSiemens.Automation.ObjectFrame
• MessageValue cannot be null. Parameter name:name
• HelpLink 
• MethodToken100671181
• MethodNameGetAttribute
• TypeSystem.ArgumentNullException
• AppDomainSiemens.Automation.Portal.exe
• ThreadNameHmi.ES2RT.CompileThread
• ThreadId4644
• IsExceptionImplicit True
• InnerExceptionMissing True

I have tried the following

• With TIA closed, delete the IM folder and then use compile > rebuild all. No difference
• Complete uninstall and re installation of TIA. No difference.
• Compile V14 PC station. No difference.
• Build new dummy V14 or V15 PC station. No difference.
• Compile WinCC basic project (e.g. KP300). This compiles fine.

I've googled "MessageValue cannot be null. Parameter name:name" and there are a few posts related to SQL query errors.

Can anyone help?

Thanks for looking!

Thanks for providing all the relevant information.

Let's say you create a new minimal project, hardware and no code, then compile do you still get the error?

If yes then it maybe your window version. I read a few time on the forums that a certain version of Windows 10 doesn't work with TIA15.

If you do not get the compile error with a minimal project then please provide more information regarding the hardware you included.

Edit: I re-read your post and I see you already answered my question. Sorry I couldn't be of help.

Cheers

Hi.

Thanks for the replies!

To keep you updated, I have just spent most of the day reinstalling all my Siemens software onto a brand new windows 7 pro x64 installation.

The WinCC project compiled perfectly!

The issue was that my Windows 10 installation was updated to version 1803 which is not supported. See link below. Note that the PLC programming side of TIA worked fine on 1803... including fail-safe code.

https://w3.siemens.com/mcms/automation-software/en/tia-portal-software/wincc-tia-portal/wincc-tia-portal-es/Pages/default.aspx?tabcardname=system%20requirements

I hope this helps someone else.

Thanks again. 

j.w.eichler

Hi.

Thanks for the replies!

To keep you updated, I have just spent most of the day reinstalling all my Siemens software onto a brand new windows 7 pro x64 installation.

The WinCC project compiled perfectly!

The issue was that my Windows 10 installation was updated to version 1803 which is not supported. See link below. Note that the PLC programming side of TIA worked fine on 1803... including fail-safe code.

https://w3.siemens.com/mcms/automation-software/en/tia-portal-software/wincc-tia-portal/wincc-tia-portal-es/Pages/default.aspx?tabcardname=system%20requirements

I hope this helps someone else.

Thanks again. 

 Our company has commissioned 3 new laptops with Win10 Build 1803 with Step7 classic and TIA 14 & 15 without any problems, as long as ALM is the latest version. No problems on using Basic or Comfort panels either.

I have nearly the same issues, but with a KTP900 Basic Panel. The project and software seem fine until the tag count grows, or the number of objects on a screen grows. The compiler want to hang at 95% for several seconds. Sometimes will finish compiling, sometimes will not. When it doesn't I get the same message, contact Siemens customer support.

I've also had issues with Portal crashing by moving a display field on a screen with a lot of other objects.

My PC is not the issue, all 3 that I use are Workstation class Xeon units with at least 32G of ram.

I've tried running on several virtual machines, Windows 10 2015 LTSB, Windows 10 2016 LTSB, Windows Server 2012R2, Windows Server 2016, and lastly Windows 7. Host machines that have tried to run it successfully are Windows 10 1803 and Windows 7. Windows 7 on the host is the only one that works remotely reliably.

V15 does not like sitting in a VM of any build.

Now I understand that Siemens does not "support" Windows 10 1803, but Microsoft forces the updates and they can't be turned off. They can be delayed or postponed but eventually they catch up with you. Siemens really needs to keep up with this since most of us don't have the option to run enterprise editions of Windows.

I'm a huge proponent of Siemens hardware, and that's all I quote my customers but it gets harder and harder to keep supporting the technological advantage they have on hardware when with every new software release the packages get more unstable and difficult to use.

similar issue on WIN 7 64 bit

Project was previously compiling. (not an upgrade or new project)

I did have a lot of errors (tags not linked mostly; some objects with no tags in event or animation)

Added tags to some of the offending objects

After that, won't compile

Dear All,

Please apply the following to solve problem;

- remove the hmi_connection between, wincc advanced and the controller

- compile the project, the error will occur about connection

- add the new hmi connection

- rebuild all the project again.

it worked for me.

 Res.sir,

I have problem  when compile the wincc advance him RT  project then I got error TIA Portal 15.1

Error massage is Compilation error please contact Siemens customer support 

I have use following engineearing environment 

1. Windows 10 Pro  -64bit 

2. Intel core-i5 .

3. TIA 15.1 with start drive ,wincc Advance.

Please replay me as soon as possible.

Regards,

dada@1

ergunn

Dear All,

Please apply the following to solve problem;

- remove the hmi_connection between, wincc advanced and the controller

- compile the project, the error will occur about connection

- add the new hmi connection

- rebuild all the project again.

it worked for me.

Dada@1

 Res.sir,

I have problem  when compile the wincc advance him RT  project then I got error TIA Portal 15.1

Error massage is Compilation error please contact Siemens customer support 

I have use following engineearing environment 

1. Windows 10 Pro  -64bit 

2. Intel core-i5 .

3. TIA 15.1 with start drive ,wincc Advance.

Please replay me as soon as possible.

Regards,

dada@1

ergunn

Dear All,

Please apply the following to solve problem;

- remove the hmi_connection between, wincc advanced and the controller

- compile the project, the error will occur about connection

- add the new hmi connection

- rebuild all the project again.

it worked for me.

 Hi,

is it new project or project that made before? this issue can happen also if the project for example built with V15.1 update 2 and now you open it with V15.1 update 1. 

the second cause also if it build with different Windows rights than the current windows.

Also, have you tried what  ergunn suggusted?

Regards

T_Ebrahem

or try this:

1.close your project.

2.delete the IM folder in the project folder.

3.open you project and compile again.

 Dear ergunn,

Thanks for solution. It works for me too!

ergunn

Dear All,

Please apply the following to solve problem;

- remove the hmi_connection between, wincc advanced and the controller

- compile the project, the error will occur about connection

- add the new hmi connection

- rebuild all the project again.

it worked for me.

Good Day Everyone.

I experienced the same issue and tried the HMI Connection removal / restore method posted above, but to no avail.

I then decided to change the WinCC RT from advanced to Pro.

So i selected change the version on my WinCC RT, and decided to lower the version (15.0) first as it was the immediate option available.

Did my Compile and it worked 100%.

So I changed the version back to 15.1 and the compile worked again.

Hope it helps.

OpisOm

or try this:

1.close your project.

2.delete the IM folder in the project folder.

3.open you project and compile again.

 This worked for me, thanks.

For me, it was a different firmware version. It was downgraded and started working.

But I had to change the default runtime language.

It only worked with the second choice of language. 

VMOPURU

I had the same issue!! Everything working fine and suddenly got this error. I changed the "HMI project --> connections --> HMI Time synch (changed to slave)" rebuilt all and then changed back to none, rebuilt all. Worked for me. I don't know the actual reason for doing this but I thought some connection lost!! If any one find the actual reason please post it. Thanks in advance

 Works for me. Thanks!

For me the solution was to install the latest update to TIA V15, that is update 4.

Other suggestions did not work.