Hello Experts,

I made some code to write information into a array in a DB.

First data goes into [0] second data into [1] etc. But I have to do this more than just one time and to multiple DB’s.

So I thought maybe I could make a FB of this code and make an input on de FB so I could give the DB and the array to write to as a parameter.

So I make a FB: write_to_db; with an input DB and Array. So the multiple references to this Db and Array changing automatically to the DB and Array that are connected to the input. So I don’t have to change every this reference by hand, because there around 20 references and I have to do that multiple times.

So when I need to write to multiple DB’s I can just copy the FB; write_to_db and give it another DB input or array input.

In the picture I uploaded you can see a part of the code so you can see a few references I’m talking about.(references are in Dutch so probably not readable for you, but you will understand what I mean.)

So my question is it possible to give a DB and a Array in the DB as a parameter to the FB, and perhaps somebody knows how to do this?

I hope someone could help me with this problem.

ps. programming in LAD not familiar with SCL

thanks in advance!

huggy_d1

lerra

Hello Experts,

I made some code to write information into a array in a DB.

First data goes into [0] second data into [1] etc. But I have to do this more than just one time and to multiple DB’s.

So I thought maybe I could make a FB of this code and make an input on de FB so I could give the DB and the array to write to as a parameter.

So I make a FB: write_to_db; with an input DB and Array. So the multiple references to this Db and Array changing automatically to the DB and Array that are connected to the input. So I don’t have to change every this reference by hand, because there around 20 references and I have to do that multiple times.

So when I need to write to multiple DB’s I can just copy the FB; write_to_db and give it another DB input or array input.

In the picture I uploaded you can see a part of the code so you can see a few references I’m talking about.(references are in Dutch so probably not readable for you, but you will understand what I mean.)

So my question is it possible to give a DB and a Array in the DB as a parameter to the FB, and perhaps somebody knows how to do this?

I hope someone could help me with this problem.

ps. programming in LAD not familiar with SCL

thanks in advance!

What you want to do in LAD is more difficult and error prone than using SCL. A few lines of SCL code and it is done.

In LAD, you have to set up a loop that does not loop beyond the bounds of your array nor forever and crash your plc on watchdog.

If I loop in LAD, the odds of me crashing the plc is much higher and I am very careful and know it is harder to do right.

I am pretty sure there are code snippets for the SCL version of what you want in these same forums. SCL is a very simple language to learn, especially if you have ever programmed any in any computer language like C, C++, Visual Basic, Java (and the list goes on).

I personally have a preference for LAD but some problems naturally fit being solved in SCL. I would say this is one of them.

lerra

huggy_d1

lerra

Hello Experts,

I made some code to write information into a array in a DB.

First data goes into [0] second data into [1] etc. But I have to do this more than just one time and to multiple DB’s.

So I thought maybe I could make a FB of this code and make an input on de FB so I could give the DB and the array to write to as a parameter.

So I make a FB: write_to_db; with an input DB and Array. So the multiple references to this Db and Array changing automatically to the DB and Array that are connected to the input. So I don’t have to change every this reference by hand, because there around 20 references and I have to do that multiple times.

So when I need to write to multiple DB’s I can just copy the FB; write_to_db and give it another DB input or array input.

In the picture I uploaded you can see a part of the code so you can see a few references I’m talking about.(references are in Dutch so probably not readable for you, but you will understand what I mean.)

So my question is it possible to give a DB and a Array in the DB as a parameter to the FB, and perhaps somebody knows how to do this?

I hope someone could help me with this problem.

ps. programming in LAD not familiar with SCL

thanks in advance!

What you want to do in LAD is more difficult and error prone than using SCL. A few lines of SCL code and it is done.

In LAD, you have to set up a loop that does not loop beyond the bounds of your array nor forever and crash your plc on watchdog.

If I loop in LAD, the odds of me crashing the plc is much higher and I am very careful and know it is harder to do right.

I am pretty sure there are code snippets for the SCL version of what you want in these same forums. SCL is a very simple language to learn, especially if you have ever programmed any in any computer language like C, C++, Visual Basic, Java (and the list goes on).

I personally have a preference for LAD but some problems naturally fit being solved in SCL. I would say this is one of them.

Hello,

okay tnx for the information, i'm going to write it in SCL, but i have a question:

maybe its a dum question but, I want to add a number (example 1, 2 or 3) to a variable uint.

in lad I can take an ADD block but i don't have that in SCL code, So I tried Variable = Variable+1, Variable + 1 etc. but it is an unknown instruction...

How do I add a number to a variable?

Technical Forum: Learn / Dummies guide for SCL Hi, Can some one help a rookie. I am trying to learn SCL programing for TIA portal. I am new with PLC programing also. Is there a dummies guide for this. Will greatly appreciated for all the help and guide. Thanks Do you have already done the "first steps" tutorial? Thanks for the reply. ... STEP 7 (TIA Portal)

2014-02-28 ID: TF521897

Jens_app

lerra

huggy_d1

lerra

Hello Experts,

I made some code to write information into a array in a DB.

First data goes into [0] second data into [1] etc. But I have to do this more than just one time and to multiple DB’s.

So I thought maybe I could make a FB of this code and make an input on de FB so I could give the DB and the array to write to as a parameter.

So I make a FB: write_to_db; with an input DB and Array. So the multiple references to this Db and Array changing automatically to the DB and Array that are connected to the input. So I don’t have to change every this reference by hand, because there around 20 references and I have to do that multiple times.

So when I need to write to multiple DB’s I can just copy the FB; write_to_db and give it another DB input or array input.

In the picture I uploaded you can see a part of the code so you can see a few references I’m talking about.(references are in Dutch so probably not readable for you, but you will understand what I mean.)

So my question is it possible to give a DB and a Array in the DB as a parameter to the FB, and perhaps somebody knows how to do this?

I hope someone could help me with this problem.

ps. programming in LAD not familiar with SCL

thanks in advance!

What you want to do in LAD is more difficult and error prone than using SCL. A few lines of SCL code and it is done.

In LAD, you have to set up a loop that does not loop beyond the bounds of your array nor forever and crash your plc on watchdog.

If I loop in LAD, the odds of me crashing the plc is much higher and I am very careful and know it is harder to do right.

I am pretty sure there are code snippets for the SCL version of what you want in these same forums. SCL is a very simple language to learn, especially if you have ever programmed any in any computer language like C, C++, Visual Basic, Java (and the list goes on).

I personally have a preference for LAD but some problems naturally fit being solved in SCL. I would say this is one of them.

Hello,

okay tnx for the information, i'm going to write it in SCL, but i have a question:

maybe its a dum question but, I want to add a number (example 1, 2 or 3) to a variable uint.

in lad I can take an ADD block but i don't have that in SCL code, So I tried Variable = Variable+1, Variable + 1 etc. but it is an unknown instruction...

How do I add a number to a variable?

Technical Forum: Learn / Dummies guide for SCL Hi, Can some one help a rookie. I am trying to learn SCL programing for TIA portal. I am new with PLC programing also. Is there a dummies guide for this. Will greatly appreciated for all the help and guide. Thanks Do you have already done the "first steps" tutorial? Thanks for the reply. ... STEP 7 (TIA Portal)

2014-02-28 ID: TF521897

Hello Again,

I’m trying real hard but I can’t get it work,

As I already told I want to make a function so I can write data from into a datablock.

It’s like this: I’ve got a few conveyors and the products are moving over these conveyors. My product is a struct with some data.

For example product 1 is detected by a sensor then I need to write that product to the DB of conveyorX. The first product goes into the array of struct [0] and the second goes into [1] etc.

I want to make one FC or FB so I can use this later again, because first I have to write the product to conveyerA and later to conveyorB etc.

I created one DB with all conveyors. The conveyors are a struct, the conveyors have some data like speed etc. and an Array of struct(the products on that conveyor)

(they DB’s are all exactly the same)

So when I look at the FC or FB there are some things that need to be variable:

For example an if function:

IF #I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor.Product[#I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor.ProductNR_cnt].Write_Enable = true THEN

#I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor: they need to change because first I have to write to ConveyorA and next time to ConveyorB, so the first time I have to check Write_Enable in ConveryorA and second time in ConveyorB.

#I_DB_Des = the DB as an input(in my case Conveyor_DB, always the same because I made 1 Db with all Conveyors)

I_Conveyor = the Conveyor(first A then B)

How can I give these as a variable to the FC or FB?

In the first picture I show how I configured input and output for reading and writing to the destiny DB and the second picture the way I tough it maybe could work how to connect it. And the third one is a part of the code I wrote.

i hope someone could help me

lerra

Hello Again,

I’m trying real hard but I can’t get it work,

As I already told I want to make a function so I can write data from into a datablock.

It’s like this: I’ve got a few conveyors and the products are moving over these conveyors. My product is a struct with some data.

For example product 1 is detected by a sensor then I need to write that product to the DB of conveyorX. The first product goes into the array of struct [0] and the second goes into [1] etc.

I want to make one FC or FB so I can use this later again, because first I have to write the product to conveyerA and later to conveyorB etc.

I created one DB with all conveyors. The conveyors are a struct, the conveyors have some data like speed etc. and an Array of struct(the products on that conveyor)

(they DB’s are all exactly the same)

So when I look at the FC or FB there are some things that need to be variable:

For example an if function:

IF #I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor.Product[#I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor.ProductNR_cnt].Write_Enable = true THEN

#I_DB_Des.I_Conveyor: they need to change because first I have to write to ConveyorA and next time to ConveyorB, so the first time I have to check Write_Enable in ConveryorA and second time in ConveyorB.

#I_DB_Des = the DB as an input(in my case Conveyor_DB, always the same because I made 1 Db with all Conveyors)

I_Conveyor = the Conveyor(first A then B)

How can I give these as a variable to the FC or FB?

In the first picture I show how I configured input and output for reading and writing to the destiny DB and the second picture the way I tough it maybe could work how to connect it. And the third one is a part of the code I wrote.

i hope someone could help me

Okay, I got a few more conveyors but that doesn’t really matter because when you make something good you can use it again, that’s why I want to handle the struct in the conveyor DB like a variable.

I got something like this:

(if not visible see attaachment)

Conveyor 1 has product 6 and 7, conveyor 4 product 4 and 5 etc.

When P6(product 6) is being transferred to conveyor 4 the data from P6(struct array) needs to be transferred from conveyor 1 to conveyor 4.

So every Conveyer got all the active products of its own conveyor, so perhaps I could check which product are in conveyor 4. So your guess was very good!

I got:

Conveyors_DB

Conveyor_1(struct)

Conveyor speed

Conveyor direction

Etc.

Product(array of struct)

Product[0] (P6)

Code(string)

Destination(uint)

Overwrite Protection(Write_Enable)

Etc.

Product[1] (P7)

Code(string)

Destination(uint)

Overwrite Protection(Write_Enable)

Etc.

Etc.

Conveyor_2(struct)

Conveyor speed

Conveyor direction

Etc.

Product(array of struct)

Product[0] (P3)

Code(string)

Destination(uint)

Overwrite Protection(Write_Enable)

Etc.

Product[1] (emty or write_enable = true, so I could overwrite the product)

Code(string)

Destination(uint)

Overwrite Protection(Write_Enable)

Etc.

Etc.

EConveyor_3(struct) etc.

Now I want to make a function that transfers the data of the transferred product to the other conveyor into the next free Product[ ] segment. Example:

Conveyer 4 has already 2 products: So Product[0], Product[1] are not available(write_enable = false).

So it checks [0], [1] and then at [2] write_enable = true so I need to write product 6 from

Conveyor_1.Product[x] to Conveyor_4.Product[2].

A little moment later I need to do the same thing for Product 4 but then from

Conveyor.Product[x] to Conveyor.Product[y].

How I determine x and y is another issue.

This is what I want to make(maybe not possible):

A FC or FB with

in/output: where I could connect the struct where I want to write to.

Input: to connect the product struct that I want to write(Product[x], Product[y].

Inputs: Some other inputs for extra update functions

Input: to connect the trigger when to write

Every conveyor transportation get his own FC or FB to do this transfer. So Conveyor 1 gets a function for the transportation from 1 to 2 and one for 1 to 4.

Frist one: in/out = “ ConveyorsDB.Conveyor_2” (connected struct = Conveyor_2)

Second one: in/out = “ ConvyorsDB.Conveyor_4” (connected struct = Conveyor_4)

I Hope you understand my problem!

Dear lerra,


it seems to me you are asking for someone to write your program, this is something I can not do... I do not have the spare time for it and it is also not the way this forum works.

I can give you some pointers but that's all... you will have to complete the program yourself.

I strongly advise you to start with the basics of SCL, create some simple programs and gradually increase the difficulty level.

Concerning your program; the possibilities to solve your issue differ from plc to plc, and the software version you are using is also important, so please be so kind to mention them in you next reply.

Here are a few things that might get you started:

• take a look at indexing (How do you obtain indexed access to an array in S7-SCL?);
• take a look at accessing element of an array (How do you implement an array access with an S7-1500 with variable index?);
• you can move complete "Structs" if theyhave anindenticalstructure "StructWithAName[0] := StructWithAnotherName[1]"

So what I'm thinking; change conveyornumber depending on which conveyor the product is on, and use that #conveyornumber as your index to access different elements of your structure. Move the productdata structs to the correct location using that index.


Kind regards,
Jens

lerra

Jens,

No I don't want anyone to write a program, i won't learn thats much then!

but you beat me, i already had the solution thanks!