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Created by: Toeternietoe at: 6/23/2013 9:18 AM (7 Replies)

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6/23/2013 9:18 AM	Rate (0)
Toeternietoe Platinum Member Joined: 12/27/2006 Last visit: 8/18/2024 Posts: 1197 Rating: (113)	Can anyone help me on the way. I have 4 compressors for a constant pressure. I do this with an analog sensor and a PI controller. So far I manage this fine, but I'm stuck with the next step. I would switch the compressor like a carousel. The compressor is sent ON to the 1st, and must go OFF 1st. example: Compressor 1 and 2 are ON Pressure drops, compressor 3 comes on. Pressure rises, compressor 1 turns off. Pressure drops, compressor 4 comes on. Pressure rises, compressor 2 goes out. Can anybody give me a hint (or a programm) to make this carousel switch? Attachment 4_Compres.zip (551 Downloads)

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6/23/2013 4:20 PM	Rate (0)
Adhentul Regular Member Joined: 6/15/2012 Last visit: 3/26/2024 Posts: 2 Rating: (0)	Hi, it is possible to use the shif registry.

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6/23/2013 6:42 PM	Rate (0)
Ton Verra Gold Member Joined: 4/20/2007 Last visit: 9/19/2024 Posts: 727 Rating: (43)	I think you can solve this by adding numbers. Co. 1 starts. Add 1 to Int (1). Press. drops, Co. 2 starts. Add 1 to Int (2). Press. rises, stop co. 1. Press drops, Int = 2, Co. 3 starts. Add 1 to int. (3) Press. rises, stop co. 2. Press drops, Int = 3, Co. 4 starts. Move 0 to int. (0) Press. rises, stop co. 3. Press drops, Int = 2, Co. 1 starts. Add 1 to int. (1) etc. I hope you get what I mean..

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6/24/2013 11:26 AM	Rate (0)
KM_AS Silver Expert Joined: 11/23/2011 Last visit: 9/30/2024 Posts: 202 Rating: (32)	Hello Toeternietoe, please have a look on the following completed solution examples. https://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/programmable-logic-controller/en/logic-module-logo/application-examples/Pages/Default.aspx?HTTPS=REDIR Maybe you will find there some helpful ideasor a solution for your case. Greetings, KM_AS

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6/26/2013 8:43 PM	Rate (1)
Betel Platinum Expert Joined: 1/5/2007 Last visit: 4/7/2023 Posts: 1690 Rating: (580)	Hello Toeternietoe, from the answers before you get some ideas... ...but remember that your cirkuit "4_Compres.lsc" shows an other way as that in your question? Look the file "DEMO_Up_down_step_controller (0BA5).lsc" at the attachment to get a solution of your question - it use the chronological order of the outputs to controll them... If you need to use the working time of the compressors (to compensate different working times) the other file give you an opinion to solve that - of cause it is only for 3 outputs, but you can modifiy this... Best regards Betel Attachment DEMO_Up_down_step_controller (0BA5).zip (481 Downloads)
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6/27/2013 8:38 PM	Rate (0)
Toeternietoe Platinum Member Joined: 12/27/2006 Last visit: 8/18/2024 Posts: 1197 Rating: (113)	Betel, you're brilliant Yes i know that my solution not is like i want, i have post is as a beginning. My program startert every time al the compressors are stopt the an other compressor as first. I tried to do as in my definition, a program, but I did not get out. I even had no idea. Now I see you program, I know how it can. In itself not as difficult as you know. But that's often. Thank you. Sorry, but Google helps my to translate......

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6/27/2013 9:35 PM	Rate (0)
Betel Platinum Expert Joined: 1/5/2007 Last visit: 4/7/2023 Posts: 1690 Rating: (580)	Hello Toeternietoe, in addition to my answer yesterday and to controll my circuit "DEMO_Up_down_step_controller (0BA5).lsc" with the aim of your cirkuit "4_Compres.lsc" i present you my circuit "DEMO_Up_down_step_maker (0BA5).lsc". The combination of both is the file "DEMO_Up_down_solution_V1 (0BA5).lsc". I am not sure, but maybe it can give contitions witch results a wrong number of active outputs? So i have build an other version of controlling the outputs ---> File "DEMO_Up_down_solution_V2 (0BA5).lsc"...Now the number of active threshold triggers are equal to the number of active outputs. I think that is your wish? Best regards Betel Attachment DEMO_Up_down_step_controller (0BA5).zip (517 Downloads)
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3/15/2017 11:21 AM	Rate (0)
Min_Moderator Platinum Member Joined: 9/3/2014 Last visit: 3/13/2019 Posts: 4766 Rating: (122)	New question published by norimane is split to a separate thread with the subject Program to manage 5 Compressors. Best regards Min_Moderator

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