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Created by: Mako2 at: 8/22/2019 1:42 PM (4 Replies)

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8/22/2019 1:42 PM	Rate (0)
Mako2 Experienced Member Joined: 11/12/2012 Last visit: 10/3/2024 Posts: 37 Rating: (3)	Dear all, I am doing a project were "GMP" is requested. 1.) If I change a value that is GMP relevant and a comment is required the message is visible in the WinCC Alarm Control Window - which is OK. But if I open the comment in the WinCC Alarm Control Window is possible to change it at any time. Is there a way to prevent changing the old comments. 2.) If I export the Alarm list in .csv the comments are not exported. Is somehow possible to do it ? Thanks for any help Attachment WinCC_Comment.JPG (211 Downloads)

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8/23/2019 6:54 AM	Rate (0)
bg2492 Diamond Member Joined: 5/16/2014 Last visit: 9/12/2022 Posts: 7298 Rating: (2172)	Hello Mako2, you should read the manual: "GMP Engineering Manual SIMATIC WinCC (TIA Portal) V15" https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/ww/en/view/109766369 and you need to use the option "WinCC/Audit" https://w3.siemens.com/mcms/human-machine-interface/en/visualization-software/scada/wincc-options/wincc-audit/Pages/Default.aspx Regards Georg Berghof
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8/23/2019 10:31 AM	Rate (0)
Mako2 Experienced Member Joined: 11/12/2012 Last visit: 10/3/2024 Posts: 37 Rating: (3)	Hello, Thank you for the replay. The WinCC Audit addon is only for WinCC V7 or WinCC Adv V15.1. I am using WinCC Pro V15.1. The Audit is included which is OK. As I mentioned in the 1st post the "problem" is that in the Alarm View if I click on the message to see the comment I can changed it. This is not OK.

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bg2492 Diamond Member Joined: 5/16/2014 Last visit: 9/12/2022 Posts: 7298 Rating: (2172)	Hello Mako2, if you use the option Audit, the operator messages are transfered from the Alarmlogging to the Audit-Trail-Database, as soon as they appear. In the Audit-Trail-Database you can not change anything. Regards Georg Berghof
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Mako2 Experienced Member Joined: 11/12/2012 Last visit: 10/3/2024 Posts: 37 Rating: (3)	Hello The Audit option is only available for WinCC TIA Advanced/Panels and WinCC V7. From the GMP Manual 6.4 Audit trail The recording of an audit trail for user actions with GMP-relevant data is implemented in the alarm system in WinCC Professional. "Solution" (in the attachment): I will add the comment to the message text and remove the column comment form the alarm view. Regards Attachment WinCC_Pro_ERES.pdf (179 Downloads)

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