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Created by: Tcmatik at: 1/10/2021 9:07 PM (16 Replies)

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1/11/2021 4:08 AM	Rate (2)
ixo65 Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 12/18/2014 Last visit: 6/5/2023 Posts: 29988 Rating: (3728)	The main flaw is the difference in the operating system version of the panel. HMI = Image version: 15.1.0.0 TIA = Image version: 16.0.0.0 You now have two options: 1.) You swap the image version in TIA (see attached video). 2.) You carry out an operating system update of the panel (follow the link to a Siemens FAQ). How do you do an operating system update on operator panels or perform a "Reset to factory settings"? The next problems are in the tag table: You define the variables from the LOGO! in the Tag_table as data type "Word". That is not correct, the data type "Int" must be used. This is because the LOGO! Word only defines the data width (a word is two bytes or 16 bits). The data type is, however, Integer (Int). For analog values in the LOGO! the data type "Int" is used (-32,768 to 32,767). In TIA, a word is an unsigned number (0 to 65535), an Int is a signed number (-32,768 to 32,767). See attached video. Also all display formats in the I/O fileds are not correct for the datatyp "Int". Attachment KTP700 Basic PN changes.zip (148 Downloads)

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1/11/2021 7:48 AM	Rate (0)
qwazee Platinum Member Joined: 3/30/2020 Last visit: 6/5/2023 Posts: 3548 Rating: (791)	Option 2 on the HMI issue.. Upgrade the instrument to V16. The negative is that it takes some minutes to upgrade to another version. The positive is all newest functions are made available.
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1/11/2021 12:19 PM	Rate (0)
Tcmatik Advanced Member Joined: 3/30/2014 Last visit: 5/5/2023 Posts: 81 Rating: (0)	@ ixo65: Thank you for helping. However I tried "Change device" could not be found. No problem, I just created a new project and set the correct version. As for the tag table, LOGO! makes it word, I assumed that this also applies in WinCC. I will take this into account in the future.

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1/11/2021 12:27 PM	Rate (0)
Tcmatik Advanced Member Joined: 3/30/2014 Last visit: 5/5/2023 Posts: 81 Rating: (0)	@qwazee: Great that you want to think along to solve this problem. However I tried my best to highlight "fit" and "upgrade", the same error kept popping up "not the same image".

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1/11/2021 2:25 PM	Rate (0)
ixo65 Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 12/18/2014 Last visit: 6/5/2023 Posts: 29988 Rating: (3728)	Tcmatik However I tried "Change device" could not be found. What does this mean exactly? - Can't you find the function? Right click on the entry "HMI_1 [KTP700 Basic PN] and a context menu opens. There click on the entry "Change device / version".

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1/11/2021 5:06 PM	Rate (0)
Tcmatik Advanced Member Joined: 3/30/2014 Last visit: 5/5/2023 Posts: 81 Rating: (0)	Searched behind several times, unfortunately not visible. So I started a new project, made the choice version 15.1. Curiosity I looked up the option "chance" and weird, but where now I could change it. I'm not worried about it, my project is now working. And that's what counts. Thank you again for the tips. ixo65 Tcmatik However I tried "Change device" could not be found. What does this mean exactly? - Can't you find the function? Right click on the entry "HMI_1 [KTP700 Basic PN] and a context menu opens. There click on the entry "Change device / version".

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1/11/2021 9:03 PM	Rate (0)
Tcmatik Advanced Member Joined: 3/30/2014 Last visit: 5/5/2023 Posts: 81 Rating: (0)	I have found something strange in TIA. After I started a new project with the correct HMI version (15.1), out of curiosity I reloaded my first project which gave errors. Strange but true, now I can click "change device / version". It's just that you don't immediately see which version the HMI panel has on board. Is it useful to upgrade to ap16? Are there any major differences between them?

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