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| 12/4/2014 11:30 AM | |
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Hello esantos, Please have a look at the following link: 6AV2123-2GA03-0AX0 SIMATIC HMI KTP700 Basic DP See the information about Recipe Administration.
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| 12/5/2014 5:21 AM | |
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By example... can I configure 1000 different recipes with a maximum of 25 parameters for each recipe using this HMI ? Since now thanks a lot! Best regards, Edsan Hi Edsan,What you are hoping for is excessive. A 1,000 diffrent products on one machine?.. wow! Please consider that you can do the storgae of recipes on the PLC.. there is nothing that says you must use the HMI for that. Even though the HMI gives a recipe service, I now make use of storage in the PLC because.. 1. The operators can be rough on the panels and transfer of recipes a pain. 2. When operators access parameters on my designed HMI that get pictures to help them understand what they are adjusting. 3. New PLCs have more storage available than before and storage is more reliable than before. If you were using an S7-1200 (firmware 4) you have the facility to store recipes onto an external MMC (memory card). I have not used it myself. but a solution such as that would suit your needs. Which CPU will you be using? w |
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| 12/5/2014 7:38 AM | ||
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So: max. 300 recipes, - any with max. 500 records - any with max. 1000 parameters If you need more, you can use a PC with WinCC advanced Runtime. BUT do you really need 300 recipes or 1 recipe with 1000 datarecords? |
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| 12/5/2014 9:32 PM | |
Joined: 11/17/2010 Last visit: 10/12/2024 Posts: 105 Rating:
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Hi William. Thanks for your attention... Yes... the machine is a CNC controlled by a Sinumerik controller then our end client needs much adjustments. Considering that the machine has many fast moviments... Do you think that I transfer the recipe management to the controller instead of HMI will affect the scan of the controller ? I thought this but I'm afraid because the scan cycle of the controller... tks so much |
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| 12/5/2014 9:42 PM | |
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Joined: 11/17/2010 Last visit: 10/12/2024 Posts: 105 Rating:
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Hello IBN-Service... I'm not familiar with terms... this machine, a CNC controlled by Sinumerik controller can produce 8 types of products with a maximum of 25 steps of production. Each step is a parameter of the recipe by exampe: Product 1 - Air Flow, Temperatura and Oil Level Product 2 - Air Flow, Oil Level and Pressure .... Up to Product 8. In the most extensive product production we have a maximum of 25 parameters. Then... adding all products and setups of each product... the limit need to be 1000 different products ( varing the setup of each one ). Do you know if one of those HMIs can manage this amount of recipes ? And did you know if I transfer this recipe management to the Sinumerik controller... It could be affect the scan cycle time of the controller ? I don't know because the recipe system inside controller ( DBs and FBs / FCs ) were not called cyclically... just when the operator need to exchange the product... Thanks a lot!!!
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Last edited by: esantos at: 12/5/2014 9:42 PMBest regards, |
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| 12/5/2014 9:56 PM | |
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Hi. Okay.. think about the process for a while.. The LIVE parameters will be in the actively scanned area of the controller - regardless where the source is from. When the parameters are loaded from the source to be used as LIVE parameters, the machine will probably not be used at that point in time. The cycle time used to load the parameters from a remote source (ex. HMI) will not effect the process. When editing parameters for the next job while the system is running, will have an effect on the cycle. IMHO it will not be enough to have something to worry about. I would go for on-controller storage, because that is what I know. (I have no experience with Sinumerik controllers however.) Other questions you may want to ask (I do not know the answer).. Can you store recipes on a memory card and load the recipes onto the COMFORT range of HMIs? Would it be possible to have 3 or 4 SD cards with different recipe sets to load the recipe set you need when it is needed? I think it will be okay to ask the above questions in a new thread. I hope you find my thoughts helpful. Good luck. w |
| 12/18/2015 1:33 PM | |
Joined: 9/1/2005 Last visit: 10/14/2024 Posts: 4109 Rating:
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New question published by Harshal is split to a separate thread with the subject KTP700 Basic PN - problem in recipe view. Best regards |
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