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STEP 7 v12 - Released for Delivery

Created by: Ganes10 at: 2/28/2013 4:32 AM (9 Replies)

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2/28/2013 4:32 AM	Rate (0)
Ganes10 Platinum Member Joined: 8/31/2010 Last visit: 3/16/2023 Posts: 1498 Rating: (217)	Hello all, Delivery Release for SIMATIC STEP 7 Professional / Basic V12 also Delivery Release for SIMATIC WinCC V12 Download TIA Portal v12 Trial Software: SIMATIC STEP 7 (TIA Portal) V12 TRIAL Download SIMATIC WinCC V12 TRIAL Download
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2/28/2013 6:54 AM	Rate (0)
UMENCHO Diamond Member Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 3/2/2023 Posts: 10221 Rating: (1175)	Aaa good! Did you try to create a project/migrate old?

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2/28/2013 8:13 AM	Rate (0)
Ganes10 Platinum Member Joined: 8/31/2010 Last visit: 3/16/2023 Posts: 1498 Rating: (217)	UMENCHO Aaa good! Did you try to create a project/migrate old? Hello UMENCHO, ha ha!! waiting for hands on as it is getting downloaded now.
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3/1/2013 4:05 PM	Rate (0)
not_my_fault Bronze Member Joined: 6/13/2006 Last visit: 1/19/2023 Posts: 123 Rating: (28)	...and here is theDownload-Link for StartDrive V12: StartDrive V12 Download

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3/1/2013 4:12 PM	Rate (0)
0_Einstein Diamond Expert Joined: 7/7/2010 Last visit: 3/31/2023 Posts: 13226 Rating: (2152)	Ganes10 UMENCHO Aaa good! Did you try to create a project/migrate old? Hello UMENCHO, ha ha!! waiting for hands on as it is getting downloaded now. I have it downloaded, but the system requirements require Win7-64 SP1 and I'm only Win7-64. SP1 fails during install, so I can't start testing V12. What's odd is you can use V11 projects in V12 and you can get online with V11 programmed PLCs in V12, but the moment your V12 opens the V11 project, V11 can never properly use the project again. This should pop up in the dialog to alert you that continuing will prevent V11 from ever accessing the project again..... Can someone post a screenshot of what happens when V12 accesses a V11 project? I support some new-to-S7 engineers and knowing these little tidbits really matters.
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3/2/2013 7:45 AM	Rate (0)
Ganes10 Platinum Member Joined: 8/31/2010 Last visit: 3/16/2023 Posts: 1498 Rating: (217)	huggy_d1 Ganes10 UMENCHO Aaa good! Did you try to create a project/migrate old? Hello UMENCHO, ha ha!! waiting for hands on as it is getting downloaded now. I have it downloaded, but the system requirements require Win7-64 SP1 and I'm only Win7-64. SP1 fails during install, so I can't start testing V12. What's odd is you can use V11 projects in V12 and you can get online with V11 programmed PLCs in V12, but the moment your V12 opens the V11 project, V11 can never properly use the project again. This should pop up in the dialog to alert you that continuing will prevent V11 from ever accessing the project again..... Can someone post a screenshot of what happens when V12 accesses a V11 project? I support some new-to-S7 engineers and knowing these little tidbits really matters. Hello huggy_d1, This interoperability is part of TIA Portal v12. You can open the v11 projects in v12 and now you have two options. Either to work in Compatibility mode or to convert it into a v12 project (which can no longer be used with v11) Whereas in compatibility mode you can open, view, edit / modify the v11 project in v12 and the same edited / modified project can now also be opened with v11.
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3/4/2013 3:36 PM	Rate (0)
0_Einstein Diamond Expert Joined: 7/7/2010 Last visit: 3/31/2023 Posts: 13226 Rating: (2152)	What bothered me was when I read that if I did the following: Open V11 project in V12 Download to PLC using V12 Now nobody can access the plc unless they use V12. Worse still, if someone wants to use the V11 projectto download updates to thePLCprogramming using V11, they have to reset the plc to factory defaults, then download the project. This is not difficult conceptually. However, in my group where most are not PLC-friendly, these extra steps just slow down acceptance even further.
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3/4/2013 5:08 PM	Rate (0)
Ganes10 Platinum Member Joined: 8/31/2010 Last visit: 3/16/2023 Posts: 1498 Rating: (217)	huggy_d1 What bothered me was when I read that if I did the following: Open V11 project in V12 Download to PLC using V12 Now nobody can access the plc unless they use V12. Worse still, if someone wants to use the V11 projectto download updates to thePLCprogramming using V11, they have to reset the plc to factory defaults, then download the project. This is not difficult conceptually. However, in my group where most are not PLC-friendly, these extra steps just slow down acceptance even further. Hello huggy_d1, Ideally when there is a compatibility mode in v12 it will also support the v11 based download (in my opinion). Where there should not be a necessity to perform a Factory Reset. (anyhow let's get this clarified once the manual is published)
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3/4/2013 6:05 PM	Rate (0)
0_Einstein Diamond Expert Joined: 7/7/2010 Last visit: 3/31/2023 Posts: 13226 Rating: (2152)	Ganes10 huggy_d1 What bothered me was when I read that if I did the following: Open V11 project in V12 Download to PLC using V12 Now nobody can access the plc unless they use V12. Worse still, if someone wants to use the V11 projectto download updates to thePLCprogramming using V11, they have to reset the plc to factory defaults, then download the project. This is not difficult conceptually. However, in my group where most are not PLC-friendly, these extra steps just slow down acceptance even further. Hello huggy_d1, Ideally when there is a compatibility mode in v12 it will also support the v11 based download (in my opinion). Where there should not be a necessity to perform a Factory Reset. (anyhow let's get this clarified once the manual is published) From the manual, dated 01/13, section Step 7 Basic, Notes on Use Loading project data with TIA Portal V11 and V12 (S7-1200) If you load the project data of an S7-1200 CPU with the TIA Portal V12, you can no longer use TIA Portal V11 to access this data. To do this, first restore the factory settings of the CPU. Read the additional information on this in the online help under "How to reset a CPU to factory settings". Compatibility The device configuration and program of an S7-1200 CPU must always be configured with the same STEP 7 version. Generally, the TIA Portal makes sure that no version conflicts occur by generating corresponding messages when loading to the device. This automatic verification is not possible with S7-1200 CPUs with firmware version V1.x. In this case, users themselves must ensure that no version conflicts occur. Be careful.
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3/19/2013 12:01 PM	Rate (0)
Denilson Pegaia Platinum Expert Joined: 9/23/2005 Last visit: 3/24/2023 Posts: 4180 Rating: (1332)	Hi The Updates for STEP 7 V12 and WinCC V12 is already avaliable at: http://support.automation.siemens.com/BR/view/en/68321809
	Denilson Pegaia Siemens Industry Sector Technical Support
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