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TM1703 protocol routing

Created by: _spak at: 5/15/2012 7:10 PM (39 Replies)

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5/23/2012 6:36 PM	Rate (0)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	_spak I am on site doing commissioning. I have not forgotten about you. Best Regards Ensar

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5/25/2012 12:34 PM	Rate (0)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	Hi, _spak today I had free time and wanted to make configuration in ToolBOX II. Idea was to receive signals via IEC 101 master and forward signals via IEC 104 slave. But I run into two problems. First problem is that the signal address of the signalthat you receive via IEC 101 master must be same as signal addressof the signal that you forward via IEC 104. This is how SICAM TM products work and you can't change that. For Example if you receive IL1 with IOA 7 (via IEC 101 master) you must forward it with IOA 7 (via IEC 104 slave). You will need to change signal addresses. Second problem is that in ToolBOX II Type overview under Parameter tab there is no UMPMT0. This is more of a question for support. I upload picture also. Maybe Mike J could ask in Siemens about this second problem. We need to define whatsignals we will receive via IEC 101 master and give addresses for these signals. For that we need to have UMPMT0 under parameters. For IEC 104 slave we don't need to define anything since it will automatically forward signals and will use IEC 101 IAO address. That is why addresses must be same. Best Regards Ensar Attachment Parameter.JPG (619 Downloads)

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5/25/2012 8:11 PM	Rate (0)
_spak Posts: 55 Rating: (0)	That’s exactly what I was worried about. Different IAO from IEC101 and IEC104 doesn’t interconnect automatically. As I said before I’ve found one solution. You just simply need to define one signal for IEC101 and another for IEC104 and interconnect them via logic.
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5/26/2012 5:45 AM	Rate (0)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	Hi _spak, today I am again on site. I will try and make custom signals but I can't test it because I currently don't have emic in my office. Maybe I will send this to support also. Do you have maybe have IL app that is doing this? Best Regards Ensar

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5/26/2012 8:35 PM	Rate (0)
_spak Posts: 55 Rating: (0)	For one signal IEC101: ASDU - 6, IOA - 16 IEC104 IOA - 257(IOA1 = 1, IOA2 = 1, IOA3 = 0) TI 36 it looks like this: LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.VALUE ST O_036_001_001_000.VALUE LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.S ST O_036_001_001_000.S LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.GI ST O_036_001_001_000.GI LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.NT ST O_036_001_001_000.NT LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.IV ST O_036_001_001_000.IV LD E_036_006_000_016_000_000.OV ST O_036_001_001_000.OV
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5/29/2012 11:56 AM	Rate (1)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	_spak, I have asked support about this. Best Regards Ensar Here it is what they said: You don't need a link for receiving signals. For forwarding: - with automatic dataflow: no link - for selective or application: you need a link
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5/29/2012 1:03 PM	Rate (2)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	Here is some more info. If you use a AU as datagateway you do not need a data-link. You have only to parametrize in the Topology an aut. Dataflow. Best Regards Ensar _spak please test this and write back.

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5/29/2012 9:43 PM	Rate (0)
_spak Posts: 55 Rating: (0)	ensark2, thank you for your help and concern. I won’t be able to test what you’ve suggested, at least until next time, because today I’ve tested this RTU with SCADA guys and everything was working very well. I forwarded information through logic I posted before. My problem was that IOA’s in IEC101 slave was hard coded and not changeable. And the second thing, if I understood you correctly, what you posted only applies when configuring via TOOLBOX, ‘cause in web browser I don’t deal with data links. I just need to fill out textboxes and select options from drop downs. Everything else is happening behind the scene.
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5/30/2012 8:46 AM	Rate (0)
ensark2 Bronze Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Last visit: 12/12/2024 Posts: 263 Rating: (18)	_spak, very good to know everything is working. Maybe when you will have to make next time same or similar configuration you will have TB and do it all easy way without IL Best Regards Ensar

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CS Moderator Moderator Joined: 9/1/2005 Last visit: 4/10/2025 Posts: 4113 Rating: (195)	follow up question published by mhoratis split to a seperate thread with the subject Can I use multipoint request in EMIC RTU. Best regards CS Moderator
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