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WinCC Flexible to KTP600 Transfer

Created by: Acorn93 at: 6/6/2012 8:57 AM (12 Replies)

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6/6/2012 8:57 AM	Rate (1)
Acorn93 Member Joined: 6/6/2012 Last visit: 10/28/2024 Posts: 7 Rating: (1)	Hi All I am currently working on my first Siemens project after 20 years of AB software. We have a CPU315-2 DP and a KTP600 Basic Color DP hmi. I have written and successfully downloaded the plc software using Step 7 (v5.4 sp5)and a USB\MPI converter. Ihave started writingthe hmi software using WinCC flexible (v2008 sp2) and I'm trying to transfer a small test program to the KTP600, without any success. The program is compiling ok but then it gives me a message 'connection could not be established'. I would be grateful if anyone could help with the following questions please. 1. Can I transfer the hmi program using the USB\MPI converter or am I on the wrong track altogether? 2. If not, can I use the MPI cable (6ES7 901-0BF00-0AA0) that was supplied to connect the PLC to the HMI? 3. Again if not, can I connect the HMI to the Profibus port of the CPU and then transfer via a pass-through type connection using my MPI connection to the PLC? 4. Again if not, how do I transfer the software to the HMI? I would really appreciate some help on this please. Thanks. Acorn93

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6/6/2012 9:30 AM	Rate (0)
IBN-Service Posts: 8946 Rating: (999)	to 4: First check, if in KTP600 in transfer settings the MPI channel is activated and the correct adress is adjusted.
IBN-Service Posts: 8946 Rating: (999)	Last edited by: IBN-Service at: 6/14/2012 11:37 AM
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6/6/2012 9:51 AM	Rate (0)
Acorn93 Member Joined: 6/6/2012 Last visit: 10/28/2024 Posts: 7 Rating: (1)	Thanks for your reply, I have already read the manual and have set up the comms as follows: *HMI > Control Panel > Transfer* Channel 2 Enabled (MPI / Profibus) Remote Control (unchecked) *Advanced* Panel is the only master (checked) Address: 3 Timeout: 1s Transmission Rate: 187,5k Highest Satation: 31 Profile: MPI *PC WinCC Settings* Project > Transfer > Transfer Device_1 KTP600 (checked) Mode: MPI/DP Station Address: 3 I then press 'Transfer' on the HMI and and get the message 'connecting to host', but when I 'transfer' from the WinCC software I get the following messages. 08:45:06.53 Transfer Info : Starting compiler ... 08:45:06.53 Compiler Info : Compiling started ... 08:45:06.53 Compiler Info : Compiling 1 delta steps ... 08:45:08.03 Compiler Info : Linking target 'Device_1' ... 08:45:08.03 Compiler Info : ES2RT 08:45:08.03 Compiler Info : Analyzing ... 08:45:08.53 Compiler Info : Converting images ... 08:45:08.53 Compiler Info : Converting fonts ... 08:45:08.53 Compiler Info : Checking results ... 08:45:08.53 Compiler Info : Writing output files ... 08:45:09.25 Compiler Info : Number of generated tags: 1. 08:45:09.26 Compiler Info : Number of PowerTags used: 1 08:45:09.26 Compiler Info : Succeeded with 0 error(s), 0 warning(s). 08:45:09.26 Compiler Info : Time stamp: 06/06/2012 08:45:08 - used 42890 bytes (incl. 5034 bytes for fonts) of maximal 524160 bytes. 08:45:09.59 Compiler Info : Compiling finished! 08:45:09.59 Transfer Info : Starting transfer for Device_1 08:45:09.59 Transfer Info : Checking version on target device ... 08:45:09.59 Transfer Info : Transferring project ... 08:45:09.59 Transfer Info : Transferring Device_1 (KTP600 Basic color DP) 08:45:10.04 Transfer Info : Preparing download... 08:45:10.04 Transfer Info : Preparing connection to the device... 08:45:22.71 Transfer Info : A connection could not be established. Please check your settings, ports, cable etc.. I cannot find anywhere in the WinCC software to check the baud rate for the transfer though. Is 187,5k correct?

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6/6/2012 10:44 AM	Rate (0)
IBN-Service Posts: 8946 Rating: (999)	You deselect the Remote Control, so you have to start the TRANSFER at the Panel before start transfer at PC. Also please check if PG/PC Interface settings are correct, is MPI 187.5k selected? (You find the menue in S7 Manager "Extras") Default MPI is 187.5k, default DP is 1.5M
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6/6/2012 11:42 AM	Rate (0)
Acorn93 Member Joined: 6/6/2012 Last visit: 10/28/2024 Posts: 7 Rating: (1)	I finally managed to achieve comms with the hmi by changing the PG\PC interface settings in windows control panel. The hmi then informed me thatit needed an os update before the application could be transferredand WinCC flexible gave me the option to update the OS. I accepted this and the new files were copied over. However the hmi is now stuck on the boot screen showing Bootloader v1.38 and the model of the hmi. I cannot get the menu to load even if I reboot the terminal. I researched doing a factory reset but these all seem to be software based. Is there a way to reboot the terminal and view the transer, run, control panel menu again?

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6/11/2012 2:37 PM	Rate (0)
Tweety Posts: 3037 Rating: (192)	Hello, I found following FAQ. How can you transfer a WinCC flexible project via MPI/PROFIBUS to a Windows-based panel? Have youenabled on the PC/PG interface the option "PC/PG is the only master on the bus"? Tweety
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6/14/2012 10:55 AM	Rate (1)
Wizard Diamond Expert Joined: 4/24/2006 Last visit: 11/18/2024 Posts: 8770 Rating: (1171)	Acorn93 ...However the hmi is now stuck on the boot screen showing Bootloader v1.38 and the model of the hmi. I cannot get the menu to load even if I reboot the terminal. I researched doing a factory reset but these all seem to be software based. Is there a way to reboot the terminal and view the transer, run, control panel menu again? Hello Acorn93, You should perform an OS update with the option "Reset to factory settings" selected. how do you do an operating system update (OS update) on operator panels? also have a look here: What transfer options are available in the various operator panels? it looks you need RS232/PPI multimaster cable or USB/PPI multimaster cable. Best regards, Wizard

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6/14/2012 12:11 PM	Rate (0)
IBN-Service Posts: 8946 Rating: (999)	Wizard ...it looks you need RS232/PPI multimaster cable or USB/PPI multimaster cable. Best regards, Wizard Dear Wizard, you're right, it is written in that documentation, but it makes me a little bit confused... If I remember well, I have donetransferwith an USB/DP adapter many times without problems. Is (or was)there a USB/MPI-DP adapter / cable that also allow the transfer...?
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6/14/2012 1:07 PM	Rate (0)
Wizard Diamond Expert Joined: 4/24/2006 Last visit: 11/18/2024 Posts: 8770 Rating: (1171)	IBN-Service Wizard ...it looks you need RS232/PPI multimaster cable or USB/PPI multimaster cable. Best regards, Wizard Dear Wizard, you're right, it is written in that documentation, but it makes me a little bit confused... If I remember well, I have donetransferwith an USB/DP adapter many times without problems. Is (or was)there a USB/MPI-DP adapter / cable that also allow the transfer...? Hello IBN-Service, I'm sorry, it was not my intention to confuse you Officially the USB PC Adapter is released to transfer the project for some mentioned panels, see the earlier mentioned link. (Read the note about USB PC Adapter) Unofficially the USB PC Adapter might work with other panels, but that is not released. But I have doubt about the possiblity of using the option "reset to factory settings", when you want to perform an OS update. That's why I mentioned to use the PPI multimaster cable. Best regards, Wizard

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6/14/2012 9:09 PM	Rate (0)
IBN-Service Posts: 8946 Rating: (999)	Wizard ... I'm sorry, it was not my intention to confuse you ... Never mind! I thankyou for showing me this information!
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