It would really be helpful if someone (Siemens?) could provide

a ready-to-burn-and-play image with access to a distribution as

Wheezy or Debian. This would allow to quickly install software

on the board without recompiling the kernel and using yocto

in depth."apt-get" is your friend here :-)

We would like to see kinds of prebuild LAMP stack images

(including apache, php, mysql, busybox and the like).

Feedback is welcome.

I 2nd this, the more popular open-source projects are supported or at least made available out-of-the-box, the more popular this product will become. I am overly ecstatic that I'll be getting to use a Linux computer on work projects now since Siemens has offered this at a great price and with UL approval.

Also, it would be wise to embrace the open-source model, i.e. it would be nice if git repositories were set up for the various software so that people can submit changes they had to make to get things working, if any.

Hi again, just found this off Google: https://sourceforge.net/p/galileodebian/wiki/Home/

Should not take terribly much to adapt that to this product, as the boards appear to be very similar. Again, just great that this can tap the existing progress from the Intel Galileo board.

I have covered a lot of this including getting Node-Red, MQTT and SQLite3 installed and up and running, configuring the package resources, architecture etc.

I have several posts on the RS-Components Designspark web site with details including exact commands to use

Here:- 

Siemens IOT2020 - Unboxing and technical look

SIMATIC IOT2020 - Create SD Card Boot Image and Configure Network

Siemens IoT2020 - Making use of the full SD Card size

Siemens IOT2020 - installing and testing Node-Red, MQTT and SQLITE3

new video on just this topic

Hope this helps, it's all there, and the IOT2000 image will only get better as we report issues and fixes.

Hi Epy,

did you already see this:

https://github.com/siemens/meta-iot2000

?

I think its not so difficult to set up the build environment and there you can easily compile your own packages...

DevGuy

Hi Epy,

did you already see this:

https://github.com/siemens/meta-iot2000

?

I think its not so difficult to set up the build environment and there you can easily compile your own packages...

Yes, of course.

This is a good starting point indeed.

BUT: There is so much power in using stand repos as Raspbian, e.g. for quickly using precompiled software packages in development or testing. Our experience is that it takes a lot of time and hardware handling (sd-card) for building an image. For development we need speed and flexibilty, for testing we need automation all the way.

So there is a big need of accessing repos. Just look at the raspberry pi ecosystem, where the extremly large precompiled software accessibility is part of the rpi success.

AND: It should not be that much effort to setup a standard distro for the iot20xx linux. Siemens could do a great job here in providing such a distribution, even if it were for "educational purposes" only.

We would be exited to see some progress here.

To be more precise: by "distribution" we mean a software repository

• with tons of precompiled packages
• that is hosted externally
• using a standard package manager (apt, ipkg/opkg, rpm, ...)

Adding new software packages should be as easy as:

• adding the repo-URL to a repo-list (e.g. /etc/sources/list for apt)
• installing a package using a shell command (e.g. "apt-get install ...")

This could by a port of "Debian wheezy armhf" compiled for the iot20xx architecture.

Sorry for being not that clear before.

At first, for any forum admin: I think we leave the part where technical support is need and we come to the more philosophical topics...

Now to Ondics: Take a look at the system that is provided here: Basically we have an Intel Galileo Gen 2 that is made more robust for industrial purpose. Galileo Gen 2 means Intel Quark X1000, which means embedded device for embedded usage.

This said, I think I can understand Intel (and Siemens) to count on an embedded Linux like its provided with the Yocto system. I don't think Raspian is meant for usage in embedded applications...

Of course its a pain to build EVERYTHING by yourself. But imagine an environment where you don't have any internet connection. Which URL would you place in your /etc/sources/list? For me its more important to be able to install my own little ecosystem in a separated area/network, and so Yocto (in combination with opkg) isn't the worst choice here...

DevGuy

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Of course its a pain to build EVERYTHING by yourself. But imagine an environment where you don't have any internet connection. Which URL would you place in your /etc/sources/list? For me its more important to be able to install my own little ecosystem in a separated area/network, and so Yocto (in combination with opkg) isn't the worst choice here...

 I fully agree for a production system. This should be built from scratch with Yocto.

But for development, in most cases there is an internet connection available, even for the embedded systems. And developers neet the internet for many purposes. Maybe in writing PLC programs in early days worked without internet, but in an industrie 4.0 world, internet is increasingly present for developers. And developers need tons of tools on the embedded system to get stuff working and tested.

The Yocto way is perfect if you know your final production setup and you can afford the long build cycles.