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PCS7 SCL Sourse Different time stamps. Reload block. Watch on\off not active.

Created by: Autogen_Slong at: 7/2/2024 9:01 AM (6 Replies)

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7/2/2024 9:01 AM	Rate (0)
Autogen_Slong Advanced Member Joined: 3/4/2015 Last visit: 7/17/2024 Posts: 30 Rating: (0)	Hi All, I need help solving a problem. I have a source project written in PCS7, V9.0 SP5. I need to make changes to one of the blocks in the program. Block (FB...) written using SCL Sourse file. The problem is that I cannot go online in the block in SCL. I also cannot load it into the controller. It compiles without errors. I have the original source project and I have done a full download of the project into the controller S7-410 5H. S7 Download->Entire program. With the controller transitioning to stop, and then back to run. Message when loading an SCL block: Diferent time stamps in online and offline blocks. Relaod block to programmable controller. Also, when opening any Charts block (CFC), the buttons in the Watch on and Watch off menus are not active. I can only go online using Test mode. https://ibb.co/8cjvch0 https://ibb.co/XzGMCvT https://ibb.co/RHp78Qz https://ibb.co/CMkg9Gb
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7/2/2024 10:53 AM	Rate (0)
Autogen_Slong Advanced Member Joined: 3/4/2015 Last visit: 7/17/2024 Posts: 30 Rating: (0)	I found a similar problem on the forum: https://support.industry.siemens.com/forum/WW/en/posts/loading-scl-code-problem/208984 Could it be that it would be impossible to go online in the SCL block?? And also load compiled changes in the SCL block code from the SCL editor itself?? How to do it? Correct me if I'm wrong. At another facility with a PCS7 system, similar code with SCL blocks is used and they can be edited and loaded from SCL. This makes it possible to track the program online.

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7/2/2024 2:15 PM	Rate (0)
Molthoff Experienced Member Joined: 3/13/2015 Last visit: 10/28/2024 Posts: 146 Rating: (40)	Hi, PCS 7 V9 and onwards downloading of blocks goes via CFC. So after you changed a SCL source, compile the SCL source you need to do an update in CFC Step by step: Change and compile the SCL source in library Go to the block folder of the library in simatic manager and select the changed block Go to Options >> Charts >> Update Block Types Select the project charts to be updated (Library and project) In case of 410-5H, you have the posibility to do a block type update in run (make sure to have the check box checked up front Then perform a compile and donload of CFC in the user project. Now a correct update of the block should be performed and you should be able to go online C witch CFC and monitor the block. Please let us know if your problem is solved! Best Rergards, Cedric

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7/8/2024 12:18 PM	Rate (0)
Autogen_Slong Advanced Member Joined: 3/4/2015 Last visit: 7/17/2024 Posts: 30 Rating: (0)	Hi Molthoff, thank you very much for the answer. I was able to log in online in the SCL source block. Procedure to solve this problem: 1. I compile the SCL block source. 2. I go to any CFC Chart 3. In CFC Chart, select Options->Block Types. I am updating the block linked to the SCL (FB...) 3. In the CFC Chart on the left, in the Catalog, I simply drag my block (created by the CFC source) onto the free space. I already have a call to this block in the program, and I just happen to call it again. 4. I compile and upload changes to CFC Chart. (Changes only). 5. Now in SCL in the source file it is possible to go online (put on glasses). The mistakes are gone. 6. Back in CFC Chart, I delete the overdrawn block, compile again and load the changes. 7. SCL source, online access without errors. The problem is that I cannot go online in the block in SCL First problem solved 2. The second, currently pressing problem: Also, when opening any Charts block (CFC), the buttons in the Watch on and Watch off menus are not active. I can only go online using Test mode. The problem is that I cannot go online in the block in SCL. -Also for reference, in the project there are 2 Redundant PLCs, for each PLC in the CFC Charts user programs, it is not possible to click Watch on\Watch off. Only the "Test mode" button is active. -Full loading of the project in the controller position did not give any result. - Did start/stop of both controllers (Master and StandBy). Also no result. https://ibb.co/vmRyCyb https://ibb.co/kyyH5SF
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7/9/2024 2:04 PM	Rate (0)
Autogen_Slong Advanced Member Joined: 3/4/2015 Last visit: 7/17/2024 Posts: 30 Rating: (0)	Hi everybody, To this day I can not find a solution to the Previous problem. what can i do ???? best regard

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7/10/2024 8:58 AM	Rate (0)
Molthoff Experienced Member Joined: 3/13/2015 Last visit: 10/28/2024 Posts: 146 Rating: (40)	Hi, Good to hear that problem 1 is resolved. I have never experienced problem 2. After some googling i found this thread: https://support.industry.siemens.com/forum/WW/en/posts/cfc-unable-to-go-online/152885 Maybe it helps, otherwise its probably time to create a service request. Regards, Cedric
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7/17/2024 12:52 PM	Rate (0)
Autogen_Slong Advanced Member Joined: 3/4/2015 Last visit: 7/17/2024 Posts: 30 Rating: (0)	Hello, all. Good day. Finally I got to the object. The problem was solved by downloading a fully working backup, an earlier version. The problem is gone. Thanks.

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