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Communication IM151-8pn/dp cpu with sitran pds111 diff.pr (7MF44341FA0Z1AB6-Z)

Created by: KRK_1986 at: 12/31/2012 3:20 PM (9 Replies)

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12/31/2012 3:20 PM	Rate (0)
KRK_1986 Posts: 62 Rating: (0)	Hi kaulquappe, I am using IM151-8pn/dp cpu with dp master interface(6ES7138-4HA00-0AB0),dp/pa coupler(6ES7157-0AC83-0XA0). i want to control sitran pds111 diff.pr (7MF44341FA0Z1AB6-Z).. HOW TO IMPLEMENT HARDWARE CONFIGURATION,AND READ DATA FROM THAT PRESSURE TRANSMITTER. PLZ HELP, THANKS KRK
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1/5/2013 8:34 AM	Rate (0)
KRK_1986 Posts: 62 Rating: (0)	hi experts, plz suggest how to perform communication
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1/5/2013 3:29 PM	Rate (1)
dchartier Grandmaster Joined: 9/27/2006 Last visit: 11/12/2024 Posts: 12293 Rating: (2691)	Hello KRK; The Sitrans P DS III you are purchasing is configured as a Profibus-PA instrument: Sitrans P DS III diff. Pressure transmitter, Profibus-PA: https://eb.automation.siemens.com/mall/en/WW/Catalog/Product/?mlfb=7MF4434-.....-....&autoopen=false Profibus-PA is a different technology than Profibus-DP, it uses MBP instead of RS-485 and is bus-powered; it alsouses a different bus cable and topologiesthan Profibus-DP. See the following presentation on Profibus-PA from Profibus.com: http://www.profibus.com/nc/downloads/downloads/profibus-pa-user-and-installation-guideline/display/ So you will need to setup a Profibus-DP networkwith one of 2 types of network transitions towards Profibus-PA: - a DP/PA-Coupler, which will allow you to connect the PA instrument as a DP slave, but the whole DP network will work at a low speed of 45,45 kB -a DP/PA link, which works as a DP slave on one end and a PA master on the other, thus allowing the DP side to run at up to 12 MB (this is used if you already have a working DP bus that you do not want to disturb). Here is some information on the subject: How do you configure a PROFIBUS PA network in STEP 7? Why can't you connect PA slaves directly to an interface for PROFIBUS DP slaves? What must you watch out for when connecting PROFIBUS PA devices to the PROFIBUS DP? This FAQ confirms the way to connect a Sitrans P to a S7 CPU through Profibus-PA nad Profibus-DP; it discusses PCS 7 as a controlling software, but the description of the hardware and the connections is similar for Simatic Manager: Connecting a SITRANS P (DS series) to PCS7 via a PROFIBUS PA - communication You will also need a licensed copy of PDM software in order to parametrize the PAinstruments, set the zero ansd span, read secondary variables, etc,,, Configuring the communications to field devices in SIMATIC PDM Option PDM -- Working with projects -- Creating and editing projects Hope this helps, Daniel Chartier
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1/8/2013 8:13 AM	Rate (0)
KRK_1986 Posts: 62 Rating: (0)	Dear Dchartier, Thanks for your support, i am using im151-8 pn/dp, so in hardware configuration , i am not able to find .gsd file ofSitrans P DS III diff.Pressure transmitter, Profibus-PA. from internet i able to download .edd file,so, how to configure .edd file in hardware configuration. i am using only dp/pa coupler,no dp/pa link. can u suggest me how to use .edd file. thanks krk
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1/8/2013 8:33 AM	Rate (0)
UMENCHO Diamond Member Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 11/1/2024 Posts: 10229 Rating: (1181)	http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/1581624 EDD files need PDM software package.

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1/8/2013 10:36 AM	Rate (0)
chandu_38 Posts: 23 Rating: (5)	hi for this you have to install PDM software which is an ADDON Package.As, sitran PDS III is an PA device you need one DP/PA coupler in your hardware configuration aslo
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1/8/2013 1:24 PM	Rate (0)
dchartier Grandmaster Joined: 9/27/2006 Last visit: 11/12/2024 Posts: 12293 Rating: (2691)	Hello KRK; Here are 2 links providing both the edd file (for installation in Simatic PDM) and the gsd file (for setting the Sitrans P DS III as a Profibus-DP slave (you will have to locate the correct version of yourinstrument in the list provided): EDD/GSD: SITRANS P DSIII - Profibus PA - SIMATIC PDM V6.0 PROFIBUS GSD files : PA Although the second file should be sufficient to connect the instrument through a DP/PA coupler and establish communications through Profibus-DP, you will only have a 5-byte exchange with the DP-master: - the first 4 bytes are a REAL value (floating-point) that contains the main variable value read by the instrument; - the last byte is a quality value for the status of the connection. This is the only interface you will have with the instrument through the gsd file. All other interfaces with the instrument(calibration, status, disgnostics, secondary variables) are available only through PDM (with the correct eddl file). Hope this helps, Daniel Chartier
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1/8/2013 9:04 PM	Rate (0)
KRK_1986 Posts: 62 Rating: (0)	Dear Dchartier, Thanks for the gsd file,i am able to communicate with my sitran pds111 diff.prdevice using gsd now i am intrested to acheive this in pdm, as i have pdm6.0 software with licence, can u have any document which clear the procedure for integration of PA device with s7300+ dp/pa coupler using pdm. thanks for your support, thanks krk
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1/8/2013 9:39 PM	Rate (0)
dchartier Grandmaster Joined: 9/27/2006 Last visit: 11/12/2024 Posts: 12293 Rating: (2691)	Hello KRK; As long as you are going to work with Siemens automationhardware and software, you should learn to navigate the site to find the information you need. Just follow the hints in the attached picture: -use the Search box to get to the Product Support page for "PDM". -select the filter you want to use: Manuals, FAQs, Downloads... OR -follow the links available for diffrerent part numbers correspondng to your product; there you will find links to specific manuals and FAQs for the specific version you requested. hope this helps, Daniel Chartier Attachment C:\Users\chard2\Pictures\Search.jpg (240 Downloads)

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1/9/2013 6:46 AM	Rate (0)
KRK_1986 Posts: 62 Rating: (0)	hi dchartier, thanks for the reply, i wll find a manual,
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