Hello,

Please refer attached cycle83. Also attaching drill tool parameter data. I think drill which is called in your program is something special tool, c edge - might be cutting edge.

Thanks for that PISCEAN 2010.I tried creating a new tool with different drill types and all had the tool offset page with three tool length compensations? The old operator just setup most tools as a roughing tool. I will try this and hope cycle 83 will work even if tool is defined as a roughing tool and not a drill

Would like to see a working  example of a cycle83 program

Kevin

 I think you have more knowledge about "Cutting technology" than I . My advantage is electrical and electronics, of cause Siemens CNC/PLC/Drives as well.

this time you have couple of doubts, I just answer some as I know.

--Link is download "manual  Cycles" you can read how to set up Cycle83--I suggest you try Cycle 81 1st, then cycle83, make sure you have all Siemens cycles loaded into CNC memory --check program-cycle--to see all cycles have check mark after loaded[x]

https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/attachments/109439500/PGZ_0400_en.pdf

--"Base" data in Tool offset--just left it empty, it is just give user some options and flexibilities. --you can think it is tool adaptor .  

--And as I know if you input a tool as drill , normally will only think about ONE length compensation , not like mill tool thinking radius as well.

if you find and download the 840D programming I post in last week, you will find description for tool offset.

For G83 I will check and answer you in next post  

PS:if you download the whole book "Cycles" there is example for cycle 83--see my attached pic

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Made a program today and it seemed to work using G42. Will check the shape of the ball with radius gauge tomorrow.

I tried to set up a new tool (drill) but the tool offset page changed with and extra tool length comp appearing. Not sure what it’s for. I took some photos of tool offset pages which may jog some memories (See attachment)

I think C Edge position is something to do with tip geometry

Radius compensation is tip radius of tool

Not sure about clear angle or DP25

Not sure what BASE is for (beside WEAR)

I'm also hoping that a command (cycle83) will be the same as G83 but am unsure of how to setup regarding drill depth, peck amount etc.

The manual I found for the lathe is for a LNE-S810D/S840D and was printed in 2001

Any help greatly appreciated 

Kevin

 Now here is my answer for your G83.SINUMERIK system before 840C, they DID use G81...G85,G80. But starting from SINUMERIK 840D, Siemens did not use G81,G82,G83,G84,G80 any more.( I did not find in new CNC programming for 840D sl/828D/808D..if the coming back, and somebody find that list, please post here and I will be also learning).How ever I think you have 840DPL (year 2002?). Instead of G83, 840D using MCALL CYCLE 83, and cancel by MCAL(no instruction) see attached page example --it is cutting from the book I showed you link in last post.

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Made a program today and it seemed to work using G42. Will check the shape of the ball with radius gauge tomorrow.

I tried to set up a new tool (drill) but the tool offset page changed with and extra tool length comp appearing. Not sure what it’s for. I took some photos of tool offset pages which may jog some memories (See attachment)

I think C Edge position is something to do with tip geometry

Radius compensation is tip radius of tool

Not sure about clear angle or DP25

Not sure what BASE is for (beside WEAR)

I'm also hoping that a command (cycle83) will be the same as G83 but am unsure of how to setup regarding drill depth, peck amount etc.

The manual I found for the lathe is for a LNE-S810D/S840D and was printed in 2001

Any help greatly appreciated 

Kevin

Thanks for your help

I managed to get cycle 83 to work, took a while to get my head around all the different parameters. I created a new tool (code 5000 I think) which was a roughing tool and set up a  drill and ran cycle 83 with no problems Still not sure why setting up a new  tool using drill codes creates a tool offset page with 3 different tool length  compensations? Anyway product matches drawing with intersection points and radius correct so G42 obviously working correctly. Will have more questions soon especially when I have to mill slots in X axis with live tooling

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.... Will have more questions soon especially when I have to mill slots in X axis with live tooling

 Please refer the attached sheet which may help you.

I guess, this is the manual you are looking for. 

SINUMERIK 840D/840Di/810D ShopMill