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Replacement for OP17

Created by: HChuck at: 1/17/2014 3:17 PM (10 Replies)

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1/17/2014 3:17 PM	Rate (0)
HChuck Posts: 5 Rating: (0)	Greetings, I could really use the advice on the following issue: I have the following setup: S5-135U rack S5 CPU 928B OP17 textual panel connected directly to A6 and A5 (PU ports) Panels are broken and need to be replaced. I have explored some options, but can't seem to find a modernpanel that can be a direct replacement. OP 77B would do the trick (or am I wrong?), but it is soon going out of production. KP400 Comfort would be a modernversion, but it seems to me that I cannot connect it. I would appreciate Any tips/advice/recommendations. Thanks in advance. ~Chuck
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1/17/2014 11:27 PM	Rate (0)
sps-concept Gold Member Joined: 4/5/2006 Last visit: 8/13/2023 Posts: 642 Rating: (131)	Hello, directly replacement is not possible. The easiest way is to use an other OP17. 6AV3617-1JC00-0AX1? I have it in stock. Regards André Räppel --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.raeppel.de work faster withinnovative PLC-Tools

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1/18/2014 12:21 AM	Rate (1)
Zenta Silver Member Joined: 10/12/2006 Last visit: 10/29/2024 Posts: 206 Rating: (25)	Hi HChuck, It not so easy :-( the problem with the OP17: there are too many buttons. If you use all of them, you can choose only a touch, and you need make the buttons on the screen. You need a panel what know the AS511, and have TTY (if the panel doesn't have TTY you need RS232/TTY converter) Regards Zenta...

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1/20/2014 8:55 AM	Rate (0)
HChuck Posts: 5 Rating: (0)	Thanks for the reply. Exact number of keys is not an issue as long as it has a numpad and arrow keys. Since I have practically no experience with pre-S7 systems, my main worry is communication via the same port. Manuals are useful, but they don't really cover the cross-generation systems. To recap, I need: AS551 via TTY or AS551 via RS232 RS232 to TTY converter I can't seem to find any AS551 support in current series of panels. Newest one that i can found (and it seems to fit my needs) is OP 77B. KP400 Comfort seems to be a direct successor, but as far as I can see, it has no AS551 support.
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1/23/2014 8:45 AM	Rate (0)
Zenta Silver Member Joined: 10/12/2006 Last visit: 10/29/2024 Posts: 206 Rating: (25)	Hi HChuck, yes, as far as I know the basic panels doesn't supported the AS511 anymore... (unfortunatelly) The OP77B have TTY port, the other panels as far as I know RS422, or RS485... Regards Zenta

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1/24/2014 9:50 AM	Rate (1)
sps-concept Gold Member Joined: 4/5/2006 Last visit: 8/13/2023 Posts: 642 Rating: (131)	Hello, maybe its possible to connect new HMI's via profibus to IM308C. Regards André Räppel --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.raeppel.de work faster withinnovative PLC-Tools

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1/25/2014 12:56 AM	Rate (1)
Zenta Silver Member Joined: 10/12/2006 Last visit: 10/29/2024 Posts: 206 Rating: (25)	sps-concept Hello, maybe its possible to connect new HMI's via profibus to IM308C. Regards André Räppel --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.raeppel.de work faster withinnovative PLC-Tools sps-concept have right, because the AS511 baud is 9600... it is very slow. regards Zenta

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1/25/2014 1:14 PM	Rate (2)
Ayman Elotaify Platinum Member Joined: 5/28/2008 Last visit: 10/29/2024 Posts: 4516 Rating: (839)	Hello, If you have the configuration protool file, then you can replace it to: OP177B blue mode or Color. SIMATIC TD17, OP3, OP7 and OP17, Discontinuation effective 10/01/2007 And as OP177B are phased out products, then make another migration to KP700 Comfort. SIMATIC OP 77B, TP/OP 177B, TP/OP 277, MP 177, MP 277 and MP 377 Declared Mature Products If you do not have the configuration file, then you have to contact your local Siemens presentative and send the panel for replacement. You have to upload the file via prosave and send the deffected panel to Siemens for replacement. Hope this helps.
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1/27/2014 8:24 AM	Rate (0)
HChuck Posts: 5 Rating: (0)	Thanks for the support. It's much appreciated. I think I'll go with 177b.
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1/27/2014 10:28 AM	Rate (0)
sps-concept Gold Member Joined: 4/5/2006 Last visit: 8/13/2023 Posts: 642 Rating: (131)	Hello, then you will have problems with the area pointer for picture-no if it is used. You must alsoedit your S5-program. Regards André Räppel --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.raeppel.de work faster withinnovative PLC-Tools

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