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block with AG_CTRL or without AG_CTRL

Created by: a.z.r at: 6/11/2014 7:50 AM (5 Replies)

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6/11/2014 7:50 AM	Rate (0)
a.z.r Bronze Member Joined: 6/8/2013 Last visit: 1/7/2025 Posts: 190 Rating: (1)	HI ALLl what is mean this statement in hardware requirement section in following page:block with ag_ctrl or block without ag_ctrl: https://www.industry.siemens.com/services/global/en/IT4Industry/products/simatic_add_ons/s7_open_modbus_tcp/Pages/technical_data.aspx?HTTPS=REDIR my CP is 6GK7 343-1EX11-0XE0 thanks

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Wüstenräuber Gold Expert Joined: 10/3/2008 Last visit: 1/16/2025 Posts: 966 Rating: (127)	Hi, in the library there are multiple modbus blocks - for usage with AG_CNTRL and for usage without AG_CNTRL. The function AG_CNTRL can check,terminate and re-establish the connection. If an error occurs during the data transfer sometimes a re-establishment of the connection makes sence. That is why there is a block with AG_CNTRL. But the older CPs (e.g. your CP)doesn't support the function AG_CNTRL. In this case you must use the other block in the library - without AG_CNTRL. This blocks takes a little bit longer in some cases of errors. Wüstenräuber

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a.z.r Bronze Member Joined: 6/8/2013 Last visit: 1/7/2025 Posts: 190 Rating: (1)	HI MR Wüstenräuber THANK YOU cant i write program only with fb108 because of be without ag_ctrl? what are defects be without ag_ctrl in programming?
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6/11/2014 8:47 AM	Rate (0)
Wüstenräuber Gold Expert Joined: 10/3/2008 Last visit: 1/16/2025 Posts: 966 Rating: (127)	Hi, I don't understand your first question. Please clarify what do you mean. There are no errors in programming in block without AG_CNTRL. It's another handling if an telegram error occurs. If there is an invalid telegram which is sent from the communication partner to S7, then it's sometimes necessary to empty the stack in the CP, so that the next telegram can be transferred correctly. The fastet way to empty the stack is to terminate and re-establish the connection (with the internal called AG_CNTRL). If the block without AG_CNTRL is used, the CP must be also emptied.But it's only possible with a byte-wise emptying. This takes a longer time than the AG_CNTRL. Wüstenräuber

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6/11/2014 9:03 AM	Rate (0)
a.z.r Bronze Member Joined: 6/8/2013 Last visit: 1/7/2025 Posts: 190 Rating: (1)	thank you can you give me a little information to empty stack that you said?

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6/12/2014 7:55 AM	Rate (0)
Wüstenräuber Gold Expert Joined: 10/3/2008 Last visit: 1/16/2025 Posts: 966 Rating: (127)	What do you want to know exactly about that? The stack is read out byte-wise...

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