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Created by: Vithani at: 6/5/2011 8:58 AM (17 Replies)

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6/5/2011 8:58 AM	Rate (0)
Vithani Platinum Member Joined: 7/8/2009 Last visit: 8/5/2024 Posts: 1976 Rating: (477)	Udara Dear Vitani, Please help me on following issue. We have an automation plant which run by 315dp processor. Unfortunetly we don't have any contact information about original programmer. Now we want to make a backup of the program to mmc. According to the documentations program is password protected? It is possible to copy RAM to mmc even if the program is password protected? Cheers, Udara You dont need to do Copy RAM to ROM as in 315 CPU, program is always stored in MMC card.. Regards Devesh
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6/5/2011 10:22 AM	Rate (0)
Saravana kumar Gold Member Joined: 2/6/2009 Last visit: 8/19/2024 Posts: 939 Rating: (118)	Hi, I don't thing so, it will be possible to take the program when it is protected. If the protection is only set for Write protection, then you will be allowed to read the data from the CPU. Here is the attachment which shows the protection method used in one project Attachment CPU propertiy.JPG (609 Downloads)
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Amit_86 Platinum Member Joined: 3/18/2008 Last visit: 12/8/2023 Posts: 1750 Rating: (272)	Vithani Udara Dear Vitani, Now we want to make a backup of the program to mmc. Cheers, Udara You dont need to do Copy RAM to ROM as in 315 CPU, program is always stored in MMC card.. Regards Devesh Dear Kumar, Udara want to make a backup of program to MMC which is not Required to do as it happends automatically. When you download a program to CPU,MMC auotmatically takes the Backup. Hence Copy is not required as said by Vithani.
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6/5/2011 12:03 PM	Rate (0)
Niranjan Prasad Posts: 691 Rating: (37)	The program can be uploaded to the Engineering PC having Siemens Softwares If its PLC then Step 7 will be sufficient.
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Vithani Platinum Member Joined: 7/8/2009 Last visit: 8/5/2024 Posts: 1976 Rating: (477)	Thank you all for responding.. But as Amit said, Udara wants to know that if it is Possible to do Copy RAM to ROM if MMC card is Password Protected.. Thats why I replied that It is not needed as program is already in ROM-MMC card.. I hope its clear Now.. Regards Devesh Vithani
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Saravana kumar Gold Member Joined: 2/6/2009 Last visit: 8/19/2024 Posts: 939 Rating: (118)	Amit_86 Vithani Udara Dear Vitani, Now we want to make a backup of the program to mmc. Cheers, Udara You dont need to do Copy RAM to ROM as in 315 CPU, program is always stored in MMC card.. Regards Devesh Dear Kumar, Udara want to make a backup of program to MMC which is not Required to do as it happends automatically. When you download a program to CPU,MMC auotmatically takes the Backup. Hence Copy is not required as said by Vithani. Hi Amit, Sorry for the wrong understanding. Actually what I though was, Udara wants to take a backup in another MMC card. So that only said the method to take backup is PC first and once he insert the new MMC he can download it in future.
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6/5/2011 4:13 PM	Rate (0)
fritz Diamond Expert Joined: 10/7/2005 Last visit: 9/10/2024 Posts: 3020 Rating: (1054)	Vithani ... Udara wants to know that if it is Possible to do Copy RAM to ROM if MMC card is Password Protected.. Thats why I replied that It is not needed as program is already in ROM-MMC card.. But what if Udara wants to make sure that he has the latest actual DB values backed up on the MMC? In that case "Copy RAM to ROM" is actually quite useful and moreinfo on all things related to this can be found in the FAQ below: What is the effect of the STEP 7 function "Copy RAM to ROM"? @Udara: As for your orignal question, I'm afraid I can't tell you if "Copy RAM to ROM" will work when the PLC is password protected (never tried it and don't have a CPU handy right now to test it). I'd say simply give it a try (it either works or it doesn't) and let us know what the result is. I hope this helps
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6/5/2011 5:13 PM	Rate (0)
gre_m Posts: 947 Rating: (45)	Hi I Thing "copy ram to rom" work on old CPU with old Eprom(EEPROM). This is not flash Eprom. Formake backupMMC card need insert MMC in cardreader and make bit to bit file image.
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6/5/2011 6:58 PM	Rate (0)
Amit_86 Platinum Member Joined: 3/18/2008 Last visit: 12/8/2023 Posts: 1750 Rating: (272)	gre_m Hi I Thing "copy ram to rom" work on old CPU with old Eprom(EEPROM). This is not flash Eprom. Formake backupMMC card need insert MMC in cardreader and make bit to bit file image. hello Gre_m Copy of MMC Card through Card reader. Good thinking. Have you checked through Card Reader? it is working then wonderful idea.
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6/5/2011 7:09 PM	Rate (0)
Niranjan Prasad Posts: 691 Rating: (37)	Amit_86 Copy of MMC Card through Card reader. Good thinking. Have you checked through Card Reader? You can read the MMC cards through Card Reader. I did that to take out GSD File from SINAMICS DC Master. But never tried with S7 CPU MMC Cards
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