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Difference between CF Cards for D410-2 and D4x5-2

Created by: Navnag at: 1/3/2015 12:45 PM (8 Replies)

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1/3/2015 12:45 PM	Rate (0)
Navnag Platinum Member Joined: 11/21/2007 Last visit: 3/31/2025 Posts: 2326 Rating: (309)	Hello Experts What is the difference between the CF Cards for : SIMOTION D410-2- 6AU1400-1PA22-0AA0 ) and SIMOTION D4x5-2 - 6AU1400-2PA22-0AA0 Can I use them interchangeably by loading the relevant firmware on the CF Card ? Thanks Navnag
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ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/17/2025 Posts: 22597 Rating: (3060)	Hello, no this is not possible. The CF Cards have different Bootloaders on it. Regards Christoph

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1/3/2015 1:31 PM	Rate (0)
Navnag Platinum Member Joined: 11/21/2007 Last visit: 3/31/2025 Posts: 2326 Rating: (309)	Thanks ChristophD I too thought so. HoweverI was searching in AD Support and Stumbled onto the attached document . On Page 64 it says : --- A new boot loader can be written to the CF card using SCOUT via "Options > Write boot sector". By adapting the formatting, boot loader and firmware, the 1 GB CompactFlash cards can also be used for other SIMOTION D control units. --- We had received a wrong CF card ( - 2PA22 instead of -1PA22 ) for a D410-2. I have just updated its boot sector with : D410_2_boot1024.bin file . The D410_2 seems to have accepted the CF card with changed boot sector. We will now try to download the program and see what happens. Will post any updates here Cheers Navnag Attachment Compatibility_SIMOTION_V43123_V4402.pdf (526 Downloads)
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1/4/2015 10:53 AM	Rate (0)
Navnag Platinum Member Joined: 11/21/2007 Last visit: 3/31/2025 Posts: 2326 Rating: (309)	Hello All Here is the Update ... The CF Card of D4x5-2 is working fine in D410-2 after Changing the Firmware and Boot Sector to D410-2. Cheers Navnag
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1/4/2015 11:13 AM	Rate (0)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/17/2025 Posts: 22597 Rating: (3060)	Hi, yes this is correct. Regards Christoph

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6/29/2015 10:55 PM	Rate (0)
DavidBrown Gold Member Joined: 6/29/2012 Last visit: 12/25/2023 Posts: 975 Rating: (9)	1) As we can conclude from the previous posts, we can make a CF card that was initially intended for D410-2 working for D4x5-2 and the other way around, by updating the bootloader by Scout? 2) What if we have a CF card for D4x5-2 and want to use it in older Simotion D4x5. Is this possible by updating the bootloader and copying an image from the original card (that was in the D4x5) to the new card? Is downgrading the bootloader possible if I have Scout 4.4?

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6/30/2015 7:36 AM	Rate (1)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/17/2025 Posts: 22597 Rating: (3060)	Hello, the D4x5-2 cards are compatible with older SIMOTION Controllers, you must not downgrade the bootloader, only copy the old FW on the card and then put it in the teh old controller. The D4x5-2 card can also be used in the old D410, only the D410-2 need it's own bootloader. Regards Christoph

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2/6/2018 8:35 PM	Rate (0)
DavidBrown Gold Member Joined: 6/29/2012 Last visit: 12/25/2023 Posts: 975 Rating: (9)	ChristophD Hello, the D4x5-2 cards are compatible with older SIMOTION Controllers, you must not downgrade the bootloader, only copy the old FW on the card and then put it in the teh old controller. The D4x5-2 card can also be used in the old D410, only the D410-2 need it's own bootloader. Regards Christoph Can I use card of D410-2 for D410, or do I have to rewrite the bootloader?

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2/7/2018 7:22 AM	Rate (0)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/17/2025 Posts: 22597 Rating: (3060)	you must rewrite the bootloader

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