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Forcing bit's

Created by: Roby at: 8/25/2008 3:48 PM (9 Replies)

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8/25/2008 3:48 PM	Rate (0)
Roby Silver Member Joined: 4/10/2006 Last visit: 5/29/2023 Posts: 815 Rating: (0)	Hello.... You can force a bit to a one logical also if the bit is programmed and scanning the read to zero logical? (the bit's are output normal) Thank you Roby
	Setting of my PG M6 Siemens OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 22H2; Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8850H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz - 32G of RAM TIA: 15.1 Update 8 (i use normally); 16.0 Update 6; 17.0 Update 6
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8/25/2008 11:38 PM	Rate (0)
Late Platinum Expert Joined: 1/7/2006 Last visit: 2/16/2023 Posts: 2705 Rating: (311)	Dear Roby, That is only for I/O (Inputs/Outputs)
	I hope that the answer will help, if you have still questions, don't hesitate to ask me. All the best, Late Never say never, think in solutions, not in trouble......
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8/26/2008 7:54 AM	Rate (0)
Roby Silver Member Joined: 4/10/2006 Last visit: 5/29/2023 Posts: 815 Rating: (0)	Hallo, Late I tried to force the output but isn't possible. If for example A1.1 is to zero logic, it is not possible to force a one logical. Then, the forcing, is a funtion dedicated only to inputs, I say good? Thank you Roby
	Setting of my PG M6 Siemens OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 22H2; Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8850H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz - 32G of RAM TIA: 15.1 Update 8 (i use normally); 16.0 Update 6; 17.0 Update 6
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8/26/2008 8:57 AM	Rate (0)
Palmerita Posts: 102 Rating: (11)	Everything depends on inputs and outputs from who From the PLC (lets say from a VAT, or directly from the program) you can only force an output, inputs cannot be forced because they depend of their own value. What I understood from your question is that you are tryng to force an output already programmed in your PLC. You can do it, as long as the condition/s that affects it (turns it on or off) is/are not active. But maybe what you mean, is that you can connect (physically) a source of 24 volts directly to an input, and not to an output, then you are right... I hope I am not confusing you
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8/26/2008 9:18 AM	Rate (0)
Pandiani Bronze Member Joined: 10/31/2005 Last visit: 3/7/2023 Posts: 293 Rating: (30)	Hello, in my experience, you use Varaible Table to modify (force) values of output and memory bits. You cannot modify inputs nor you can modify outputs which are already programmed in logic. Practically, besides inputs, you cannot modify variables assigned to output coils. Also, PLC must be in RUN-P position (for older CPUs) . Regards, Pandiani
	Last edited by: Pandiani at: 8/26/2008 9:19 AM
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8/26/2008 9:45 AM	Rate (0)
Wizard Diamond Member Joined: 4/24/2006 Last visit: 5/16/2023 Posts: 8586 Rating: (1127)	Hello Roby, Did you have a look at Step 7 online help? Please search for: "Forcing variables" and "Force values" You can force inputs and outputs. When you force, you can see at CPU, because FRCE led will light up. Best regards, Wizard
	Last edited by: Wizard at: 8/26/2008 9:48 AM See also Online help: Differences between Forcing and Modifying variables
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8/26/2008 1:42 PM	Rate (0)
Roby Silver Member Joined: 4/10/2006 Last visit: 5/29/2023 Posts: 815 Rating: (0)	Ok..... I also use the table editing variables .... I can force to ONE the inputs (E)... I can force to ONE the outputs(A) that ARE NOT PROGRAMMING in the plc... if i have a output programmed, and plc scanning the read to zero, i can not force to ONE ..... there's nothing to do!! I'm using a cpu 313C and the step7 v5.4 + sp3 + hf1, but i think that not important.... Best regards Roby
	Setting of my PG M6 Siemens OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 22H2; Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8850H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz - 32G of RAM TIA: 15.1 Update 8 (i use normally); 16.0 Update 6; 17.0 Update 6
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8/26/2008 2:18 PM	Rate (1)
Pandiani Bronze Member Joined: 10/31/2005 Last visit: 3/7/2023 Posts: 293 Rating: (30)	Hello, It seems there's a bit confusion about Forcing and Modifying values. Attached, you'll find sheet that will hopefully clarify this. Regards, Pandiani Attachment Modify and Forcing.pdf (230 Downloads)

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8/26/2008 3:28 PM	Rate (1)
Wizard Diamond Member Joined: 4/24/2006 Last visit: 5/16/2023 Posts: 8586 Rating: (1127)	Hi, If you want to modify variables you use Variable table (VAT) When you want to force variables, you go to PLC -> Display Force values Best regards, Wizard

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8/26/2008 4:21 PM	Rate (0)
Roby Silver Member Joined: 4/10/2006 Last visit: 5/29/2023 Posts: 815 Rating: (0)	Ok thanks to all.... Roby
	Setting of my PG M6 Siemens OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 22H2; Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8850H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz - 32G of RAM TIA: 15.1 Update 8 (i use normally); 16.0 Update 6; 17.0 Update 6
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