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Created by: Slovenc at: 8/20/2014 1:33 PM (9 Replies)

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8/20/2014 1:33 PM	Rate (0)
Slovenc Posts: 27 Rating: (3)	Hello! In my proces i have 4 stages so i thought i would visualize it this way: I will create 4 screns and in each i will move the objects that need to be moved. When the output that moves the object is set the screen will go from one to another. Is it possible to make it this way? Im using TIA11 SP2 and winCC basic. Now i dont know how to attach the outputs or variables to move from screen to screen. Thanks for your help
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William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	Hi there. I have a feeling it is possible to do what you ask. As a side note.. you know that you can create internal (HMI) variables. You also have an instruction that can jump to a variable you ask for in a variable. But please.. make a hand sketch and show us what you have in mind to do. I am sure somone will come up with constructive ideas thereafter. Greetings. w
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8/20/2014 2:18 PM	Rate (0)
Slovenc Posts: 27 Rating: (3)	Ok i added the picture. The proces goes like this: First the piston of valve A goes in(with the rotating part), then the piston from valve B goes out, then valve a returns(up) and then valve B rerutnes back to the first position. I tried to make the movements with graphic lists but the priblem is that the part i circled overlaps with other parts. I think the easiest way would be with the screens but if someone has another idea your welcome Attachment WinCC.jpg (267 Downloads)
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William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	Thanks fo the image. Is there a reason why the encirlced object is not included in the background image? (a) The easiest would be to have x4 version of the complete image and use graphic list. The graphic list should be set to OUTPUT type. (b) Other option would be to have a background image and have moveable objects. The moveable object can be controlled by animation (motion or show/hide). (c) Next idea is to go from one page to another.. you have to monitor a variable and change the screen number on change of the variable. Which idea sounds the most promising to you.. which one needs more explaining? Greetings. w
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8/20/2014 3:47 PM	Rate (0)
Slovenc Posts: 27 Rating: (3)	I think option a) will do it. I made 4 pictures of the proces but now i dont know how to attach them to the variables (M0.0,M0.1,M0.2,M0.3) because the variables have only 2 options (1 or 0). I know how to attach two pictures to one variable so when the variable changes the other picture apears. Could you please explain me what should i do so the pictures will apear when each of the variable(M0.0..M0.4) is set.
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William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	See if the image attached help you. Attachment Visual Clue_Multi selectable image in graphical IO field.jpg (223 Downloads)
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8/20/2014 4:54 PM	Rate (0)
Slovenc Posts: 27 Rating: (3)	Ive tried to make it the same way you posted the image. The problem is that the variables im using are type bool and you can only attach 1 variable to all 4 pictures so the picture will change only once. I have 4 variables and when each of this variable (all are type bool) is set a diferent image should appear. I dont know how to attach all 4 variables to this 4 pictures.
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8/20/2014 6:35 PM	Rate (0)
William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	Slovenc Ive tried to make it the same way you posted the image. The problem is that the variables im using are type bool and you can only attach 1 variable to all 4 pictures so the picture will change only once. I have 4 variables and when each of this variable (all are type bool) is set a diferent image should appear. I dont know how to attach all 4 variables to this 4 pictures. Hi. There is nothing that says the manipulation of the image MUST be linked to the 4 bits. You could have something written in an INT or WORD that manipulates the picture. Think of the picture you sent is the base version. 0 >> base version 1 >> move cutter down (draw new complete drawing) 2 >> material move closer (draw new complete drawing) 3 >> material move closer (draw new complete drawing) 4 >> material move closer (draw new complete drawing) 5 >> material in position (draw new complete drawing) 6 >> move cutter up (draw new complete drawing) 7 >> material move back half distance ..restart Then you make a program in the PLC to handle the changing of the list. You have to relate the changing bits to the numbers. Yes.. this is more work, but it will look VERY good. For this method you need to have the graphic list have selection on VALUE and not bits. Alternatively (more easy).. Keep the image static as is and have arrows appear (animation>>visibility) to show moving direction up/down left/right. See if these ideas help. w
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William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	Hi there, Please find attached another design idea that uses bits to set visibility. In the ZIP attachment contains 2 JPEGs, a simulation parameter set and a sample program. The first JPEG shows how to activate the simulation. Trigger BIT1 and BIT2 on and off to see the result. The trick in this example is that the a part of the image is now in two segments and the layering position is important. See if this can work for you.. I'd like for you to give some feedback. Greetings. w Attachment Design Idea_Control visibility of overlayed pictures.zip (266 Downloads)
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William_B Posts: 5225 Rating: (1198)	This example completes the set. It shows how objects can be moved. This uses x2 INT values.. in this case each from 0..9 in value. The images are image segments that are grouped together. The groups are then moved from position using the "animation" function (right click on an object/group for quick access). I recommend you look at the previous example first and then this one. This example does not contain instructions on how to trigger the simulation. A JPEG displaying what to expect is included. The simulation parameters are also included with project sample. I hope you find this helpful. w Attachment Design Idea_Control position of grouped segmented pictures.zip (198 Downloads)
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