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Intouch 10.1 what kind of profibus card do i need?

Created by: SimpleUser at: 2/5/2010 9:37 AM (9 Replies)

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2/5/2010 9:37 AM	Rate (0)
SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	Hey, im going to upgrade a project that runs intouch 7.1 on 2 old NT4 pc´s that communication with 5 pcs s7-300 plc over profibus now i some questions: what profibus card i need on the new PC´s that going to run XP? A sales man on wonderware recommended applicom PCU1500S7 homepage: http://www.woodhead.com/products/bra...profibus/#2601 price is 1010 Euro Siemens profibus card is cheeper but i cant figure out what card i need to buy? and what i need to make it work with intouch i/o server? Do i need Simatic NET with licens to make it run as it should? or do i only need drivers from the simatic net package?
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SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	In siemens webshop i found 6GK1561-1AA01 SIMATIC NET, profibus, CP 5611 A2 And 6GK1561-3AA01 SIMATIC NET, CP 5613 A2 Found this in the PDF about wonderware Siemens S7 I/O Server.(see attched picture) manual says CP5613 or 5611, and webshop have CP5613 A2 or 5611 A2 what does A2 stands for? can i use one of those? and do i need additional package? Attachment temp.jpg (205 Downloads)
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2/5/2010 1:53 PM	Rate (0)
umencho Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 1/14/2025 Posts: 10239 Rating: (1182)	Hello Asson, Analog in Siemens is CP5611A2 (6GK1561-1AA01). But you will need Simatic Softnet S7. This meens the price will be the same. if you use Wonderware CP card, how will you connect to S7-300 PLC? Which I/O Server will be use? In other way, what do you think about using of ethernet? Best regards, Hristo Mihalev

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umencho Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 1/14/2025 Posts: 10239 Rating: (1182)	quote] So, The CP 5611 has been replaced by the CP 5611 A2. The new A2 supports the PCI standard V2.2. The module can thus be used both in 3.3V PCI slots and in 5V PCI slots with 33 MHz or 66 MHz. Operation as 32-bit card ina 64-bit PCI slot is also possible and the CP 5611 A2 can also be operated in a PCI-X slot. The previous CP 5611 can be replaced by the new CP 5611 A2 without any software update. The same story is with CP5613A2. Both cards without A2 now is available only on a spare part basis. Best regards, Hristo Mihalev

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2/5/2010 2:15 PM	Rate (0)
SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	UMENCHO , how will you connect to S7-300 PLC? Which I/O Server will be use? In other way, what do you think about using of ethernet? Best regards, Hristo Mihalev This is a plant that is up and running all ready and the 2 PC with intouch is connect to the PLC´s over profibus. To switch over to Ethernet is to expansive becuse non of the plc have ethernet cards and no LAN-Network. If i will use CP5611 or CP5613 im going to use wonderware Siemens S7 I/O Server If i going to use applicom PCU1500S7 Wonderware have i/o server for that, DAServer, DDE, FastDDE, SuiteLink.
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2/5/2010 2:53 PM	Rate (0)
umencho Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 1/14/2025 Posts: 10239 Rating: (1182)	So, then use Wonderware CP card (if baud rate is enough for your application 1.5Mbps). With Siemens CP you will need extra software (look at your table). Best regards, Hristo Miahlev

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2/8/2010 12:34 PM	Rate (0)
SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	know i have made a closer look on the setup that is running right know They use CP5613 and have licens for simatic net SW: 6GK1713-5CB61-3AA0 OS NT4 and have made the setup like in technote 220. 1. does this simatic net version works on XP pro? 2. if we bay a new CP5613A2 6GK1561-3AA01 can i use the this version of simatic net?
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2/8/2010 1:26 PM	Rate (0)
umencho Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 1/14/2025 Posts: 10239 Rating: (1182)	Asson know i have made a closer look on the setup that is running right know They use CP5613 and have licens for simatic net SW: 6GK1713-5CB61-3AA0 OS NT4 and have made the setup like in technote 220. 1. does this simatic net version works on XP pro? 2. if we bay a new CP5613A2 6GK1561-3AA01 can i use the this version of simatic net? Hello Asson, Unfortunately you couldn't use existing SimaticNet software under Windows XP. For XP you need at least version 6.1...By the way you have 6.0. So, you need also 6GK1561-3AA01-3AE0 SW FOR CP 5613 A2. Best regards, Hristo Mihalev
	Last edited by: UMENCHO at: 2/8/2010 7:58 PM Just one NOTE! Be careful. With new SimaticNet version this technote is not useful! Tomorrow around noon I''ll try to explaine in details. I remembered just now this details.
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2/9/2010 9:39 AM	Rate (0)
SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	Thanks for your help, hope u have time to come back with some info about my setup, Was talking with Siemens support, the told me that i need Simatic Net S7-5613 upgrade - 6GK1713-5CB00-3AE1 if i buy a new CP55613A2 and going to use it in a new PC with XP Pro Dont know if this is the latest upgrade from 6.0 Think that is the right way to go.
SimpleUser Posts: 19 Rating: (0)	Last edited by: Asson at: 2/9/2010 9:45 AM Last edited by: Asson at: 2/9/2010 9:40 AM
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2/9/2010 3:58 PM	Rate (0)
umencho Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 1/14/2025 Posts: 10239 Rating: (1182)	Hello Asson, Yes, you need exactly these "items" in SIEMENS side. Hardware plus software working in Windows XP mode. My idea is how to connect with Intouch application this Siemens hardware. I suggest you (perhaps Wonderware would suggest the same or some easier way) to use DAS S7 Server for S7 Profibus with SIMATIC NET. How to make all necessaries settings look at Configure DAS S7 Server in Windows® 2000/XP via CP1613 Interface over TCP Connection This example is with other CP (Ethernet), but logic is the same for you with Profibus CP. Best regards, Hristo Mihalev

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