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Invisible button visible in runtime - KTP400 Basic mono

Created by: Wynie at: 1/5/2022 3:04 PM (5 Replies)

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1/5/2022 3:04 PM	Rate (0)
Wynie Regular Member Joined: 4/28/2006 Last visit: 10/2/2024 Posts: 3 Rating: (0)	Milos Petrovic Dear colleagues, I have a problem with invisible button on my HMI. Even if it is invisible, when I download it to operator panel I can see borders of it. Please see attached picture. Picture is from PC runtime but the same is displayed on HMI. Info: - I use TIA Portal V13 SP1 Update 9 - I useuse WinCC Basic/Comfort/Advanced Runtime - I use KTP 700 Basic PN, verssion 13.0.1.0 Thanks in advance! Milos Attachment Pic1.png(333 Downloads) What to do when I have a KTP400 Basic mono with the same problem, only this panel has no style selection? If I put more buttons on the screen, the edge goes with the button I push!? So there is only one edge visible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Split from Invisible button visible in runtime.
	Last edited by: Wynie at: 01/05/2022 15:44:46 Last edited by: CS Moderator at: 01/07/2022 14:51:09 New subject after splitting / Insert quote
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2/1/2022 1:30 PM	Rate (0)
ul21581 Advanced Member Joined: 4/9/2021 Last visit: 4/4/2025 Posts: 12 Rating: (1)	Hello! Thy this: 1) Select Properties -> General -> Mode -> Text 2) Delete all text in a button 3) Properties -> Appearance -> Background -> Fill Pattern -> Transparent 4) Properties -> Appearance -> Border -> Width -> 0 You get completely invisible button with no borders

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2/2/2022 11:24 AM	Rate (0)
Murof Platinum Expert Joined: 8/3/2009 Last visit: 4/25/2025 Posts: 15355 Rating: (1895)	Hello No i Think you just have to use General-> Mode-> Invisible (TIA V17) but you will always habe the "focus border". in Case of a Basic Panel you cannot deactivate. you can only choose the colour. Bye Murof
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qwazee Platinum Member Joined: 3/30/2020 Last visit: 4/25/2025 Posts: 5084 Rating: (1038)	Murof Hello No i Think you just have to use General-> Mode-> Invisible (TIA V17) but you will always habe the "focus border". in Case of a Basic Panel you cannot deactivate. you can only choose the colour. Bye Murof Hello. What Mr Murof is saying applies to the KTP400 of firmware V12.0. The KTP400 mono has firmware V12.0. This answers the topic but does not apply to all Basic panels / firmware versions. What @ul21581 suggest would apply for the KTP400 of higher firmware version (6AV2 123-2DB03-0AX0). See also the pictures below to enhance what was mentioned by @ul21581.
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2/3/2022 3:14 PM	Rate (0)
ul21581 Advanced Member Joined: 4/9/2021 Last visit: 4/4/2025 Posts: 12 Rating: (1)	qwazee Murof Hello No i Think you just have to use General-> Mode-> Invisible (TIA V17) but you will always habe the "focus border". in Case of a Basic Panel you cannot deactivate. you can only choose the colour. Bye Murof Hello. What Mr Murof is saying applies to the KTP400 of firmware V12.0. The KTP400 mono has firmware V12.0. This answers the topic but does not apply to all Basic panels / firmware versions. What @ul21581 suggest would apply for the KTP400 of higher firmware version (6AV2 123-2DB03-0AX0). See also the pictures below to enhance what was mentioned by @ul21581. Hello! As an option one can just set button background color same as screen background color and remove borders.
	Last edited by: ul21581 at: 02/07/2022 08:30:40 Last edited by: ul21581 at: 02/07/2022 08:31:15
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2/4/2022 2:33 PM	Rate (0)
Murof Platinum Expert Joined: 8/3/2009 Last visit: 4/25/2025 Posts: 15355 Rating: (1895)	Hello Just to clarify: Its a clear thing he is using a KTP400 Basic Mono there is only a Basic Panel 1st Generation panel available!! there is no 2nd Generation Mono device so of course my answer is only specific for the KTP400 BasicMono Not for all Basic panels. But This was not the question of Wynie Bye Murof
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