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Runtime button is disabled

Created by: Kbv at: 9/12/2017 8:38 AM (7 Replies)

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9/12/2017 8:38 AM	Rate (0)
Kbv Silver Member Joined: 7/14/2016 Last visit: 6/27/2024 Posts: 387 Rating: (28)	Hello, Reopening this old thread because I am having the same problem. I have installed wincc prof v13 and then v13 sp1 engineering packages and they are working ok. Now I installed RT prof v13 sp1, the one I received with my runtime license. It installed without any error. But still runtime button is disabled. I found this post saying that before you need to install RT prof v13 before installing RT prov v13 SP1. well I didnt get such massage during installation. Please see attached installed software. This seems little bit odd because RT prof v13 is not downloadable and for using SP1 you have to have v13 as well. So you have to order two DVDs!!! Then what in the case of v13 SP2??? Three DVDs? Please help me understand TIA and what siemens are trying to do with all these versions? Kbv. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Split from start Run time button is not effective . Attachment installed.docx (309 Downloads)
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9/12/2017 9:34 AM	Rate (1)
Murof Platinum Expert Joined: 8/3/2009 Last visit: 4/25/2025 Posts: 15355 Rating: (1895)	Hello Kbv The RT Button works only in a WinCC Advanced RT Projekt!! Not in a WinCC Professional RT Project. If you like to test something you can use the Simulation (here is also a PLC connection possible). If you like to start a productive runtime on your Engineering PC, (Engineering and Runtime is on the Same PC) then you cannot load yourself, you have to use Online-> Download to file system Then you can use the "WinCC RT Start" Applikation to start the Runtime or configure the Autostart. If your Runtime should run on another Computer than the Engineering then you can use a download: http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/88780011 Bye Murof
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9/12/2017 10:58 AM	Rate (0)
Kbv Silver Member Joined: 7/14/2016 Last visit: 6/27/2024 Posts: 387 Rating: (28)	Hello Murof, Thanks for reply. I didnt know that. I will try this and let you know. But I am thinking if online plc connection is possible i simulation as well, then why do we need runtime. I mean where can I find difference between simulation and runtime. Also Do I need to install RT v13 before v13 SP1? I didnt get any massage or error during installation. Thanks kbv.
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9/12/2017 11:22 AM	Rate (0)
Murof Platinum Expert Joined: 8/3/2009 Last visit: 4/25/2025 Posts: 15355 Rating: (1895)	Hello Kbv -> WinCC Prof RT: You start the Generated Runtime Oroject in Runtime with the WinCC RT Application. The Runtime Data like logs an Runtime Data Userarchive and so on will be store in a normal way.This is for a productive Runtime environment. -> WinCC Prof RT Simulation: If you start simulation there will be created a temporary copy of the Runtime Folder and this Runtime will be started (its because Runitme Data like logging archives could not be stored in Project Folder or Engeneering Environment). After closing The RT Simulation the temporary copy will be deleted automatically. RT Data will not be stored until you start the next simulation. In Simulation Mode the Runtime will be started in a common way so you can use all functionalities like Communication to PLCs and so on. You only have to set the PG/PC Settings from the access Point oyu use in the HMI Connection to the correct Network adapter. I hope now its clear to you Bye Murof
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9/12/2017 12:39 PM	Rate (0)
Kbv Silver Member Joined: 7/14/2016 Last visit: 6/27/2024 Posts: 387 Rating: (28)	Hello Murof, Its clear now, thank a lot. I have tried the download to file system as you said but I am getting the error of SCS network adapter as attached. and downloading fails. Both my adapters are assigned valid IP address I am trying to download in ES only. Some settings required in simatic shell? Again I have directly installed v13 SP1 runtime without v13 runtime. Can that be a problem? Kbv. Attachment error.JPG (343 Downloads)
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9/13/2017 11:03 AM	Rate (0)
Kbv Silver Member Joined: 7/14/2016 Last visit: 6/27/2024 Posts: 387 Rating: (28)	Hello all, It was my mistake, I was selecting download to device instead of download to file system. Below is the link: https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/103198851/with-wincc-(tia-portal)-v13-how-do-you-transfer-a-configuration-without-a-direct-data-connection-to-a-pc-with-wincc-runtime-advanced-professional-?dti=0&lc=en-WW Hope this helps someone else. But now I see that changes in the system is made very tedious. Loading online changes is not possible? I have to make changes and save project, deactivate runtime, compile and load to file system, then reselect new path in wincc RT start and activate runtime. Is there any better way. Kbv.
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9/16/2017 4:41 AM	Rate (0)
mrvoice Experienced Member Joined: 3/5/2013 Last visit: 4/4/2025 Posts: 19 Rating: (1)	Kbv Hello all, It was my mistake, I was selecting download to device instead of download to file system. Below is the link: https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/103198851/with-wincc-(tia-portal)-v13-how-do-you-transfer-a-configuration-without-a-direct-data-connection-to-a-pc-with-wincc-runtime-advanced-professional-?dti=0&lc=en-WW Hope this helps someone else. But now I see that changes in the system is made very tedious. Loading online changes is not possible? I have to make changes and save project, deactivate runtime, compile and load to file system, then reselect new path in wincc RT start and activate runtime. Is there any better way. Kbv. Agreed, any help? I don't like to stop my logging because a small change...

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9/19/2017 9:17 AM	Rate (0)
Kbv Silver Member Joined: 7/14/2016 Last visit: 6/27/2024 Posts: 387 Rating: (28)	No, currently following the mentioned procedure. I hope there is some workaround. Waiting for the Expert!!! Kbv.
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