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Hello all,

We havea machine in our shop running a Sinumerik 810d control system. We have 3 NC axes and then there are 20 spindles driven by a bank of 20 simodrive 611 drive units on the DC bus.
We have the spindlescommandedfrom profibus and are running open loop, theNC axes handlethe precision movement on the machine, and the spindles are running cutting saws.This is a pipe slotting machine (ie cutting small slits into along piece of pipe longitudonally)

The machine is very old and the 810d CCU and other components have been exposed to dust and vibration and over-heating and are just old and we would like to upgrade this system at least an 840d.
The entire drive system and periphery isquite extensiveso would like to replace just the 810d and the opertor panel (op31/mmc103) with a new system and leave the drives as is.

My question is can we do this, or do we need new drives. I would like to keep the existing drives and simply change the 810d and operator panel and update the NC program, and PLC program.

Part Numbers are
OP31 - 6FC5203-0AB12-0AA1
MMC103 - 6FC5210-0DA21-2AA1

810d CCU -6FC5410-0AX02-1AA0

Simodrive Control Board - 6SN1123-1AA00-0CA1

Simodrive - 6SN1118-0NJ01-0AA1

Pleas advise on the question above, and general suggestions on this upgrade,

Thanks in advance

Jarek Bialik
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5/28/2010 1:22 AM	Rate (0)
CNC600 Silver Member Joined: 10/27/2009 Last visit: 2/21/2023 Posts: 453 Rating: (74)	Hi, basically the 810D is a "stripped" 840D. This means everything You can do with an 810D You can do with an 840D/840Dsl as well (sometimes better...) You can run Your "old"PLC/Profibus controlled 611U-spindles from an 840D as well. Just note: The 810D contains internaly 2 or 3 PowerModules (pending on the version) and the regulators therefor. The 840D does not contain these Modules and not the regulators. If You control Your "NC-axes" currently from these internal modules You have to provide these PowerModules and there RegulatorBoards additionaly. Perhaps this needs more space in Your cabinet. My suggestion: If You can (or want)keep the old external PowerModules for the NC-axes ==>replace the 810D by an 840D and add the needed RegulatorBoards for 611D. If You have torenew the PowerModules as well ==> change over to 840Dsl and SINAMICS. You canuseYour Profibus controled 611U-spindles and the 600V DCsupply in each case. The replacement of the MMC103/OP31 is a 2nd issue. If here are running special customized applications on Your MMC103 - You need to replace the MMC103 by a PCU50 and have to create these application for new. If You can operate the machine with a "standardHMI" (a couple of customized screens can be added easily) You can use a "HMIembedded" (840D) or "HMI Operate" (840Dsl) to save money. Take care on Your PLC-I/O-peripherie. The 840Dsl can control only Profibus/Profinet-PLC-peripherie. If You use currently the SINUMERIK-PLC You can control this "Boxes" only by 840D (or replace theses modules by standard S7-I/O-modules). If You use S7-300 I/Omodules You have to replace the BusConnection module (IM153) only if You want to use a 840Dsl. hope that helps CNC600
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