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Want to convert tags which are developed in Industrial Ethernet to TCP/IP and in structure formate

Created by: pichaimuthu at: 8/14/2008 1:39 PM (8 Replies)

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8/14/2008 1:39 PM	Rate (0)
pichaimuthu Posts: 1 Rating: (0)	Hi Dear, In Wincc i am develope tags in industrialethernet.this one i want be convert to tcp/ip.and all tags in structure formate.please help me.
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8/19/2008 8:16 AM	Rate (0)
April Posts: 1776 Rating: (95)	Hi, what do you mean? If i understand your question corectly, the following faq can help. http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/22533244
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8/27/2008 9:04 AM	Rate (0)
Palmerita Posts: 102 Rating: (11)	Hi Pichaimuthu.. What do you mean to change the structure and format? That part I did not understand The main difference (for WinCC programmingpurposes) between Industrial Ethernet and TCP/IP is that TCP/IP uses the IP address from the PLC and Industrial Ethernet the MAC Address.. So as far as I know, the only thing you need to do is to make a new driver connection on TCP/IP using your PLC address and then cut and paste the variables from one connection to the other... if the addresses from the variables in the PLC are the same, then there is no need to make further changes.
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8/27/2008 9:54 AM	Rate (2)
Ates Posts: 198 Rating: (17)	no no i would do it like this, 1 open wincc project 2 create tcp ip connection configure it. now you have already old industrial ethernet comm. setted up in your wincc, so now you have 2 channels. ok 3. open your wincc project but dont go to runtime 4. open start>all programs (win xp style menu) > sql studio 2005 > sql server management studio. ok 5. goto left menu in management studio, databases, now there find your database for example cc_srv1.. something 6. in db click at tables, find MCPTCONNECTION , right click open table 7. now you need to see your 2 channels (at least); newly created tcp ip and old industrial eth. you will see machine ip at tcp ip connections parameter field, and mac address at industrial eth. Also you can see channels name from connection name coloumn. 8. now you need to change channelunitid coloumn, lits like \|connection id\|machine id\| channelunitid\| connection name\|parameter .... etc 2 2 4 tcp_ip 192.168.x.x 2 2 6 industrial eth. 08-ef-xx-xx .. etc write 4 to 6 and 6 to 4's place.. (its like write 10 to 4 then 4 to 6 then 6 to 10 yeah you dont understand this but after 5 sec you try to change it you will understand :) so thats all .. did you forget to take backup before start ? very bad mistake :) dont be lazy
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8/27/2008 3:06 PM	Rate (1)
Palmerita Posts: 102 Rating: (11)	Woww!! I did not know that That is why I really like this forum... you can always learn new things!!! Since I joined it I have learned so many tricks and new ways of doing things...
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8/27/2008 8:03 PM	Rate (0)
JMJ Posts: 487 Rating: (44)	If you are worried about doing it directly opening the database, then you can do the same by using WinCC config tool. In the Tag workssheet change the connection of all the tags. This may sound tough but since you are doing it in Excel it can be done in less than a minute. But even cut and paste in Tag Management in WinCC explorer works ************************************************************************************ Don't forget to take a backup of the project before doign any of the methods ************************************************************************************
JMJ Posts: 487 Rating: (44)	Last edited by: JMJ at: 8/27/2008 8:06 PM
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8/27/2008 8:29 PM	Rate (0)
DeepakD Bronze Member Joined: 11/30/2006 Last visit: 3/16/2021 Posts: 118 Rating: (11)	Hi there is also simple& Fast way to to do this . You can directly Cut (Ctrl + X) the Structure Tags from Struture folder & Paste (Ctrl + V) into TCP/IP Connection . Please remember cut the struture tags from Individual Structure folder (Do not Cut Paste the Tags from Industrial Connection other wise your Struture tags will be duplicated) & Paste it into TCP/IP connection .Your Tags will automatically transfered from Industrial Ethernet to TCP/IP. For Example : Project Tree Connections \ MPI --- Tags \ Profibus ---- Tags \ Industrial Ethernet- Tags \ TCP \IP---Tags Struture : Structure 1 : Tags ... Structure 2 : Tags ... . . Struture N : Tags .... This is applicable for any type of connection like MPI to Profibus , etc. I hope you understand this . Make sure that you take a backup of u r SCADA Project.
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8/27/2008 8:38 PM	Rate (0)
JMJ Posts: 487 Rating: (44)	JMJ But even cut and paste in Tag Management in WinCC explorer works Deeps, It is already there in my post
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8/27/2008 8:46 PM	Rate (0)
DeepakD Bronze Member Joined: 11/30/2006 Last visit: 3/16/2021 Posts: 118 Rating: (11)	JMJ i tried to explain him in more details since it is not directly cut paste from one connection to other for struture tags . Simple tags you can directly cut paste .

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