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Also need your servo motor information. and if better what is the control system? CNC or PLC
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11/30/2018 10:56 PM | |
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The machine is a Deckel Maho DMU80P CNC machining center, which is to be retrofitted with MS-Tech CNC control, which can be found by searching "MS-Tech CNC". 6SN1123-1AA00-0CA1 is 1-axis drive max 50A, connected to a 3-phase AC servo motor with a Siemens P/N: 1FT6086-1AF71-1AM1, and Encode I-2048. The Spec on motor's tag: Mo 27Nm 16.4A; Mn 18.5 Nm 13A, Max 3000 rpm. 6SN1123-1AB00-0CA1 is a 2-axis drive max 50A for each channel, connected with two motors that are the same as above. 6SN1123-1AB00-0BA1 is a 2-axis drive max 25A for each channel, connected with one AC servo motor with a Siemens P/N: 1FT6062-6AF71-3AA2, and Encode I-2048. The Spec on machine wire diagram is: Mn 9.5 Nm 6A, 3000 rpm. 6SN1123-1AA00-0LA1 is a 1-axis drive max 108A. connected to the machine's AC spindle motor. The motor's spec from machine wire diagram is: Mn 86Nm 54A, 11,000 rpm. For the last two motors, their tags are not available, because guards on machine could not be removed before machine axes are movable. Again, I need the part numbers of the plug-in analog interface cards. Thank you for your attention |
12/1/2018 7:04 AM | |
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You may use 6SN1118-0AA11-0AAX user freindly interface or 6SN1123-0AD11-0AAX control card to interface analog set point & incremental enoder.
For this module you may use 6SN1118-0AE11-0AAx control card.
For this module you may use 6SN1118-0AE11-0AAx
User need to check spindle motor details & encoder details in order to select control module. If encoder is TTL type you may select 6SN1121-0BA12-0AA0 To suggest you perfect control card for spindle please provide complete motor name plate details & type of motor used, encoder system intercafed i.e. motor encoder or direct encoder mounted on spindle shaft. etc. etc. BTW, the power modules & control modules of this 611 drive system are old ones & this product is discontinued by SIEMENS in 2014. You may get the control modules in open market but for long terms perspective it will be difficult & costly in maintenence point of view.
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12/2/2018 7:14 PM | |
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Thanks for the help and attention from all the professionals who replied/answered to my questions! The spindle motor is of Siemens brand with P/N 1PH2095-6WF41, and comes with feedback device of Measuring head: WG04 A-05 1-200325/015T05, Mn=95Nm, In=45A, Rn=1100/min, P=10KW. (This is based on the part list and wiring diagrams of the machine. I cannot access the motor nameplate before servo axes can be moved. I do not know if the feedback signals are TTL or not). 1) Please suggest the P/N of the analog interface card for the drive (and, if possible, let me know if feedback is TTL). 2) Additionally, please help on the pin-out (pin definitions) of all the connectors on the analog interface cards for making correct connections. Thank you very much! |
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12/3/2018 6:29 AM | |
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Siemens 1PH2 motor are in built in motors for direct drive. Motor encoder feedback is hollow shaft type & is not included in motor supply as such you need to check the mounted encoder type & details, so that appropriate control interface card can be selected. HTH |
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12/3/2018 6:36 AM | |
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1PH2 built-in motors |
12/3/2018 7:31 AM | |
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You cannot use 611A control card for 1FT6--motors !! Cannot use 6SN1118-0AA11-0AAX or 6SN1118-0AE11-0AAX From information you provided --you have most 1FT6-- motor, I think you need to use SIMODRIVE 611U CONTROL CRADs also even I am not sure your motor encoders type, but most of 1FT6- motors attached SIN/COS encoders 2048 P/rev. 611U is also good for your 1PH2 motor, you can set up with or w/o encoder ( if with encoder, you need attaching sin/cos encoder to spindle motor, and very easy to couple , no alignment need) 1FT6-- motor can be used for 611D or 611U, but for 611D you need to use CNC 840D power line in your case -I think you want to keep you old CNC system. so you must use 611U parts# 6SN1118-xNHxx-0AAx, x=0, or 1 any as 611U is discontinued you can search from market to get new or good refurbished 611u can interface to analog cnc output for your axis motor or spindle motor I will attached start-up manual for you later , you also need SIMO COM U SOFTWARE to start up 611U
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Last edited by: nulizhang at: 12/3/2018 7:38:32 AMCannot use 611A control in your case Last edited by: nulizhang at: 12/3/2018 7:41:07 AMLast edited by: nulizhang at: 12/3/2018 7:44:39 AMLast edited by: nulizhang at: 12/3/2018 7:46:49 AMLast edited by: nulizhang at: 12/3/2018 7:47:28 AMIf you like my comments please |
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12/5/2018 1:36 AM | |
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Thank you very much for your valuable instruction,nulizhang! If possible, please help to confirm that 6SN1118-0NH01-0AA1 is a 2-axis card. Sending me start-up manual (and/or connector pin-out definitions for the card) will be highly appreciated! (I do not know if I can post my email address in the forum or not.) |
12/5/2018 6:13 AM | |
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All 611U control cards feedback by using encoder are 2-axis card. (there are 611U card feedback by using resolver , these kind of cards possible 1-axis or 2-axis control) You are not allowed to post email in forum post, and I try to load 611U manual for you here but the file is too large. So you can google by yourself --SIEMENS 611U START UP MANUAL AND search software SIMO COM U If you have trouble for these issues you can PM me BTW--I checked your post again I think you can use 1FT6062-6AF71-3AA2--it attached incremental encoder . But for 1FT6062-6AF71-1AMx, I am not sure , you need post its picture, if encoder interface is Drive CliQ, which is for SINAMICS, then it is not for your application
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Last edited by: nulizhang at: 12/5/2018 6:20:01 AMcannot use 1FT6062-6AF71-1AMx motor? If you like my comments please |
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