3/14/2017 9:57 AM | |
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Hi PatrikStar, do you know if there is a way to make types/instances of equipment modules? In the project examples in your link, it looks like they just put some control modules into a folder and call it an equipment module. Is there a way to synchronize them if I make changes in a library version of an equipment module? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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3/14/2017 10:32 AM | |
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Hi Dinesh, You can create a CMT of something you created in CFC charts. That "something" can be a Control Module like measuring an analog value. In this case you have a analog input driver and an analog monitoring block. If you create this as a CMT, you can create instances out of it. This means you can parameterize that template you build. Example: For instance 1: the unit should be "kg/h" and for instance 2: the unit should be "m3/h". Both instances are using the same CMT template. An equipment module is a set of Control Modules. For example a supply to a tank. This can consist of a valve, a pump and a flowswitch. You can also create this as a CMT. Some background information: PCS7 uses the following names: - CMT (Control Module Type), instances: CM (Control Modules). This is a new concept based on the PTT. - PTT (Process Tag Type), instances: PT (Process Tag). This is an older concept. ISA88 uses the following names: - Unit (Can operate one batch at a time) - Unit can consist of Equipment Modules. Like Supply, Stirring, Heating - Equipment modules can contain CM (Control Modules)-> a valve, a motor, a level switch, a flowswitch
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3/14/2017 2:00 PM | |
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Yes, You can, but you cannot drag and drop them to CFC. It depends which type you are going to use. You have PTT (Process Tag Types) were synchronization is limited. You have to use IEA (Import Export Assistent) to create instances. A newer concept is CMT (Control Module Types). In order to use this you will need Advanced Engineering, but this addon is being discontinued and the new way to do this is to use addon: Automation Base, but this addon is not released yet. You can create PTT and convert them to CMT later on. Not the other way around. Another way is to use Models and is based more on units layer. You can for example create a model of a unit tank with equipment modules: Supply, stirring and heating. You can create the picture of the unit with all equipment and thus including the Control modules in the equipment module. You can then create a model of it and you can then create instances (called replica's). You can create a replica for tank1, tank2, tank3 etc. |
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3/15/2017 7:14 AM | |
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Goodmorning K2016, Glad to help.... Well....Advanced ES is not officially discontinued, but it's not enclosed with the media package anymore, no more updates (V8.0 SP2 is the latest), but there are still a lot of problems and the new concept for bulk engineering with CMT is Automation Base, which should come this year, hopefully asap. That's why I stop using Advanced ES. But you can still work with it in PCS7 V8.2: - Advanced Engineering System v8.0 SP1 works with PCS7 v8.2 - Advanced Engineering System v8.0 SP2 works with PCS7 v8.2, but you will need CFC Upd2 installed for PCS7 v8.2 I doubt it is free, for Advanced ES you also had to buy a license, but the software was free. One other way to commence bulk engineering with CMT is to use COMOS. Advanced ES and Automation Base are based on a part of COMOS, but COMOS itself is very "big". You can configure the whole plant starting with process planning (P&ID, E&I) to control logic in PCS7. See the following link for more information. For the models/replica's: You can modify a model via Options->Models->Create/Modify model, but changes are limited. For example, you cannot change block names in an existing model or replica's of the model. Import/Export is no longer possible.
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6/21/2017 10:25 AM | |
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New question published by chiawc is split to a separate thread with the subject What kind of PCS7 license do I need to add in my Engineering Station if I would like to use CMT?. Best regards |
6/30/2017 1:24 PM | |
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Hi guys, Siemens is not going to release PCS7 Automation Base, because they created a new concept called: Plant Automation Accelerator. See the below link for more information: Youtube link: PA Accelerator official presentation Again, the addon is based on a proportion of COMOS -> E&I + Automation engineering and it will synchronize your Control Module Types and integrates hardware engineering with possibility to automatically create your hardware configuration in PCS7. Similar like AdvancedES. Can't wait to work with it when it is released....I hope soon... |
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6/30/2017 9:02 PM | |
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Good info! I was waiting for automation base as well |
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