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HMI compatible or not

Created by: RAJKIRAN at: 2/27/2012 11:57 AM (15 Replies)

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2/27/2012 11:57 AM	Rate (0)
RAJKIRAN Silver Member Joined: 8/18/2009 Last visit: 6/17/2024 Posts: 548 Rating: (33)	Dear Expert, We have HMI TP270 Touch -10 CSTN(6AV6 545-0CC10-0AX0) ONFIGURABLE W. PROTOOL FROM VERS. V6.0. Now we want to replaced with Simatic MP 277 10” Touch Panel CONFIG: WINCC FLEXIBLE 2008. Is this HMI compatible & also is there any problem in PROTOOL project into WINCC FLEXIBLE Conversion ? Please tell me if any other compatible HMI in a economical view....
	Last edited by: RAJKIRAN at: 2/27/2012 12:04 PM Rajkiran Patil
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2/27/2012 12:20 PM	Rate (0)
Darius Platinum Member Joined: 9/28/2005 Last visit: 11/5/2024 Posts: 2957 Rating: (242)	Hi, About conversion. Normally it should be ok, but who knows, so better is to try to convert and then analyze errors/warnings you get. Then you will have more clear picture. About panel. MP277 should be ok as long as TP270 (10") has no successor product. You just change device type in Flexible and try to compile. Everything should be ok. And if everything is ok then you can order new panel.
	Best regards, Darius
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2/27/2012 12:32 PM	Rate (0)
Darius Platinum Member Joined: 9/28/2005 Last visit: 11/5/2024 Posts: 2957 Rating: (242)	look here: Discontinuation: SIMATIC TP 270, OP 270 and MP 270TP270 10" is replaced by MP277 8" (6AV6643-0CB01-1AX1), so maybe its better to go for it ? First I thought it will be resolution issue, but I've checked all panel and all have 640x480 resolution so in any case your pictures will not be corrupted by resolution conversion. So I think you can go for any of those two panels.
	Last edited by: Darius at: 2/27/2012 12:43 PM Best regards, Darius
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2/27/2012 12:38 PM	Rate (1)
Sandman Platinum Member Joined: 4/29/2010 Last visit: 8/12/2024 Posts: 1557 Rating: (161)	RAJKIRAN Dear Expert, We have HMI TP270 Touch -10 CSTN(6AV6 545-0CC10-0AX0) ONFIGURABLE W. PROTOOL FROM VERS. V6.0. Now we want to replaced with Simatic MP 277 10” Touch Panel CONFIG: WINCC FLEXIBLE 2008. Is this HMI compatible & also is there any problem in PROTOOL project into WINCC FLEXIBLE Conversion ? Please tell me if any other compatible HMI in a economical view.... Hi, the conversion itself doesn´t work without any changes in your configuration (caused f. e. by the settings of the area pointers wich are different at WinCC flexible). If you want to check what have to be done if you convert this project to flexible (in a MP277) i advice you to take a look at the migration manual (chapter 3): WinCC flexible migration manual For the replacement of a MP270, the MP277 is the best choice. The MP277 is the successor type of the MP270 and full compatible. For more information take a look at the phased-out actual information: Phased-out Products: SIMATIC TP 270, OP 270 and MP 270 best regards

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2/27/2012 12:39 PM	Rate (0)
RAJKIRAN Silver Member Joined: 8/18/2009 Last visit: 6/17/2024 Posts: 548 Rating: (33)	Dear All, I have migrate Protool project in Winflex 2008 in PC & it is not given any error also I can see all screen in PC. so means this Protool migrated backup (in Winflex) will no problem in HMI. is it right.
	Rajkiran Patil
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2/27/2012 1:28 PM	Rate (0)
Marcjan Platinum Member Joined: 4/22/2010 Last visit: 10/17/2024 Posts: 5697 Rating: (715)	Hello, Check the buttons and their operation carefully, some functions have changed and will not be converted.(found out the hardwaywith TP 27 --->MP277) No warning or error, just a lot of buttons with no function. Regards, Marcjan
	Problem solved? Please let us know! Please no technical questions by PM, use the forum sections for your questions.
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2/27/2012 2:41 PM	Rate (0)
RAJKIRAN Silver Member Joined: 8/18/2009 Last visit: 6/17/2024 Posts: 548 Rating: (33)	Sandman RAJKIRAN For the replacement of a MP270, the MP277 is the best choice. The MP277 is the successor type of the MP270 and full compatible. For more information take a look at the phased-out actual information: Phased-out Products: SIMATIC TP 270, OP 270 and MP 270 best regards we haveHMITP270 Touch -10 CSTN(6AV6 545-0CC10-0AX0) & not MP270.
	Rajkiran Patil
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2/27/2012 4:12 PM	Rate (0)
Sandman Platinum Member Joined: 4/29/2010 Last visit: 8/12/2024 Posts: 1557 Rating: (161)	I am sorry . Okay the successor of a TP270 is a TP277, but you can also use a MP277. It is also possible and from the migration steps/way the same (you change from a xP270 class to a xP277 class).

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2/27/2012 6:05 PM	Rate (0)
UMENCHO Diamond Expert Joined: 3/21/2006 Last visit: 11/1/2024 Posts: 10229 Rating: (1181)	Hello, In all cases you should do more or less additional checks and tests in order to confirm fully functionality of replaced panel, doesn't matter of its type. Just my opinion. best regards, Hristo Mihalev

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2/28/2012 8:26 AM	Rate (0)
Darius Platinum Member Joined: 9/28/2005 Last visit: 11/5/2024 Posts: 2957 Rating: (242)	Sandman I am sorry . Okay the successor of a TP270 is a TP277 No, that's not true. Look here: Discontinuation: SIMATIC TP 270, OP 270 and MP 270 Actually it can't be a replacement as TP270 was 10" and 640x480 resolution and the only one version of TP277 is 6" 320x240 resolution. So it just can't be a replacement.
	Last edited by: Darius at: 2/28/2012 8:40 AM Best regards, Darius
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