12/7/2009 2:26 PM | |
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Ok, Í'm busy on recovering the automation system on a plant. I have some documentation about the CFC software. I see that they used a block that represents a SM module. For examplea analog input (8 channels). In the block are the following parameters: - Bo_CH_use 00 (to 07) = enables channels - BO_SIMon 00 (to 07) = simulation on - SIM_V_00 (to 07) = simulation value - V0HRange (to 7) = maximum range - V0LRange (to 7) = minimum range - V0 (to ) =output value There are some more parameters, but this will make it clear. Is this a custom build block? or is this available on the library? Thank you Best regards, Sandor |
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12/8/2009 9:22 AM | |
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Hello Phantom, I'm not able to scan the cfc prinout, so i made a paint drawing. Hope it helps.. edit: the name: Analog iput d should be Analog input d |
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12/9/2009 4:56 PM | |
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I am not aware of this block in the libraries I used. Could be a custom block with 8 CH_AI's. Are there MODE parameters in the left and connected? Regards |
12/14/2009 9:50 AM | |
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Hi Sandor-CRX, seems to be and old PCS7 version: in PCS7 v4 drivers block was for modules type, from PCS7 v5 drivers blokc for single I/O channel Regards |
12/14/2009 8:00 PM | |
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Hey CBo, I think you are right, The PCS7 version that was used isv4.0. I wonder why they changed it.... It is handy to make one CFC were all inputs and outputs are listed from one ET200 module. Now I have to make in almost every CFC at least one driver block to connect my input/output. Especially if I have over 150 I/O... Thanks for the reply! Now I know that there are some blocks which I cannot find in the new version, but did existed. |
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12/30/2009 1:55 PM | |
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Hello Hello, So every I/O from ET200M should be connected to a driver block (CH_AI, CH_AO etc.). This means that I need 1000 (fully equipped plant) of those driver blocks. What I did: - I created in the plant hierarchy a hierarchy folder: Template_IO - In there I created the following charts: TEMPLATE_AI, TEMPLATE_AO, TEMPLATE_DI and TEMPLATE_DO - In the TEMPLATE_AI, I inserted 8 CH_AI driver blocks - The same goes for the other templates - Next, I copied the templates to the hierarchy folder which uses ET200M. - I renamed the TEMPLATE_AI to a easy name. - From there, I connect all my inputs/outputs from my S7-400 master symbollist - Whenever I need a input or output, I interconnect this to my CFC chart with all the I/O's. It seems a little too much work. Is there an easier method? |
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1/4/2010 2:11 PM | |
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Hi Sandor-CRX; What PCS7 version are you using? |
1/5/2010 7:54 AM | |
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I am using version 7.1..... |
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1/5/2010 11:18 AM | |
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Why don't you use Import-Export Assistant to insert and configure the charts? |
1/7/2010 3:55 PM | |
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Uhmmm, Because I didn't know excactly how to use the import-export assistent. And you'll need a master lib. but I have a single project. I thought that is was a lot of trouble to use the import-export. |
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1/8/2010 9:37 AM | |
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Hi Sandor-CRX, yes, you need master data library to use IEA that means you need convert your single project into multiproject. But you need separate license also to use IEA. IEA permit you to create a "process tag" or "model" to replicate fast for all your I/O, what you have to do is export master "model" in IEA files (it looks like excel) and change one by one all I/O address/symbolic into this file (and other few fields). By the way, there is no automatic way (or wizard) to change from old version "module drivers" to new version "channel drives"....you have to do manually or by IEA . P.S.: PCS7 v7 doesn't support "module drivers" any more (you can use them untill PCS7 v6) Regards |
1/8/2010 10:35 AM | |
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Hello CBO, Thanks for your clear explanation. I think I stick just to my method. That is, create a template CFC with drivers and copy it/change name. It matters that the factory is running. And when it doest, I always can update the softwareprogram. |
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1/29/2010 12:54 PM | |
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What I created is: |
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2/23/2010 8:56 AM | |
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Hello, Can somebody give me an review about the way I defined my I/O? During compiling I got a warning that there were too many blocks in the OB. I have like 16 CFC charts with only driver blocks. I didn't use the IEA because I thought this was easier en weren't too comfortable with master libraryand multiproject (I have single).. Please take a look... Thank you Regards, |
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2/23/2010 9:21 AM | |
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Hi, maybe youhave too many instances in a runtime group. You need to create some more groups, I think. look here: http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/view/en/771569 regards MichS |
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2/24/2010 12:03 PM | |
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OK, that`s a better way... |
2/24/2010 2:27 PM | |
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I'msorry for not making myself clear... What I need to know is that I won't get any problems because I defined my I/O like in the attached picture. It seems so ackward to put 16 driver blocks in one sheet. ThenI was wondering if that is alright. Because if I have a CFC chart where I want to control a motor, instead of putting the driver blocks in their own CFC, I can put the driver blocks in the CFC chart controlling the motor. That way, the Runtime groups are less... Or doesn't it really matter, cause the data size is still the same.... How do I need to intepretate that..? |
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