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810T GA1 "ausgabe gesperrt" ??

Created by: NCFinland at: 6/28/2010 7:11 PM (21 Replies)

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6/28/2010 7:11 PM	Rate (0)
NCFinland Posts: 9 Rating: (0)	I have loaded machine data to a 810T GA1 controller in a EMCOTurn 340TC lathe. I have also set the spindle speed limits and working area limits. The controller is in german language. It seems otherwise ok (finds reference, both axis move etc.), but I can't enter any values either to MDI/Automatic (for example, S100) or to JOG/overstore (for example, try to enter 100 to S field). When I write something and press enter, I always get "ausgabe gesperrt". Why do I get this error? I don't have external control panel. Does this have something to do with "input inhibit" of external control panel, perhaps? At the top right of the screen, there is "-K1". What does this mean? Manual refers to this space as "channel number". So "1" is channel 1, but what about the "-K"? I have downloaded all the manuals for the control and tried to solve this with them. It is truly excellent service from Siemens to make the manuals available! Thanks!
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6/28/2010 9:15 PM	Rate (0)
Gebhardt Karl Platinum Expert Joined: 7/16/2006 Last visit: 12/28/2020 Posts: 1502 Rating: (175)	Hi Can you make a Picture from the Panel with error ?
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6/29/2010 6:38 AM	Rate (0)
Ekalavya Platinum Expert Joined: 8/4/2009 Last visit: 5/31/2020 Posts: 2964 Rating: (463)	Hello... Have you clearedthe datas properly and reloaded .Can you change the langauge to English and check what the exact error is coming. youcanchange the langaugeby going into NCMD parameter 250=1 Also try toenter the password 1111 and check.... Check it out... Ekalavya
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6/30/2010 4:49 PM	Rate (0)
NCFinland Posts: 9 Rating: (0)	I have reset and reloaded it according to instructions found here in "810_820 reload.pdf". It is my understanding that with 810T ga1 it is not possible to change language with settings. It requires changing language eprom. There is no parameter 250 to change. So I'm stuck with german language display.
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6/30/2010 5:22 PM	Rate (0)
NCFinland Posts: 9 Rating: (0)	Attached is MDI-automatic photo. Error comes when I press enter. Attachment MDI_automatic_eingabe_gesperrt.jpg (164 Downloads)
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6/30/2010 5:22 PM	Rate (0)
NCFinland Posts: 9 Rating: (0)	Here is Jog mode photo. Same thing. Attachment Jog_eingabe_gesperrt.jpg (117 Downloads)
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6/30/2010 7:25 PM	Rate (0)
Ekalavya Platinum Expert Joined: 8/4/2009 Last visit: 5/31/2020 Posts: 2964 Rating: (463)	Hello.... Have you physically checked in the machine NCMD whether this parameter is present. If it is there you can change, Could you check the membrane keys on your keypad / display side have got stuck..... looks like something is jammed. Ekalavya
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6/30/2010 8:21 PM	Rate (1)
Gebhardt Karl Platinum Expert Joined: 7/16/2006 Last visit: 12/28/2020 Posts: 1502 Rating: (175)	Hi Now i can readin the Photo "Eingabe gesperrt" instead "Ausgabe gesperrt". O.K. Normaly is posible please check. - You have NO referenzpoint reach --> Make a referenz for all Axis.(It is possible ? ) - There are a switch is wrong ( The name i dont know. You can turn and remove) ( Google means "key switch", please turn to other direction) - Are you give information correct in ? ( switch input, switch start, . . .) - You can try give in a "LF" before you start the "little code". Perhaps you need only an"machine operator" ? Please try: 1. Push in the emergy button --> Alarm are in the display --> Alarmnumber. 2. Make an error --> as sample turn on/off a "motor protection switch" --> do you see a Alarm or an Alarmnumber ? Please make a Photo from the complete Unit ( Push button on the front, down under the monitor)
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6/30/2010 8:25 PM	Rate (0)
Gebhardt Karl Platinum Expert Joined: 7/16/2006 Last visit: 12/28/2020 Posts: 1502 Rating: (175)	NCFinland At the top right of the screen, there is "-K1". What does this mean? Manual refers to this space as "channel number". So "1" is channel 1, but what about the "-K"? This is correct.
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7/1/2010 11:05 PM	Rate (0)
NCFinland Posts: 9 Rating: (0)	Gebhardt Karl Now i can readin the Photo "Eingabe gesperrt" instead "Ausgabe gesperrt". Sorry. My german is rather limited. Indeed EINgabe. Gebhardt Karl - You have NO referenzpoint reach --> Make a referenz for all Axis.(It is possible ? ) I have referenced the control at the beginning. Starting control I press "NC ON", "AUX ON". Then I press X+, it finds X reference, then Z+, it finds Z reference. At this point I am in JOG mode, all seems ok. No errors. Gebhardt Karl - There are a switch is wrong ( The name i dont know. You can turn and remove) ( Google means "key switch", please turn to other direction) I don't have "external machine control" panel, so I don't have the "input inhibit/operation inhibit" key. Is there some machine data related to this that could be wrong? Gebhardt Karl - Are you give information correct in ? ( switch input, switch start, . . .) - You can try give in a "LF" before you start the "little code". Just LF also gives "eingabe gesperrt" after pressing enter. I go, for example, to JOG mode OVERSTORE. I move cursor to S. I write "100" and press "enter". I understand from manual that this is how it should work. Gebhardt Karl Perhaps you need only an"machine operator" ? I only have myself to operate it. 810T is too old control to find local support here. Gebhardt Karl Please try: 1. Push in the emergy button --> Alarm are in the display --> Alarmnumber. 2. Make an error --> as sample turn on/off a "motor protection switch" --> do you see a Alarm or an Alarmnumber ? Emergency button causes "2000 ORD 1 Not Aus". I did get "1720 arbeitsfeldbegrenzing" before when I had not yet specified the working area limits. Sorry, I did not remember to test "motor protection switch". I'll do that later. How about "tool compensation". I have not specific tool compensation values yet. Could that cause this? Thank you for answering. I really appreciate your help. Attachment Emcoturn_340TC_810T_panel.jpg (150 Downloads)
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