Can I use CNC 840Di connect(profibus) to ADI 4 for control simodrive(6sn1123) ?

I have new project to think  about CNC 840Di profibus network connected with ADI 4 to control simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) and drive simoreg (6ra7085) (spindle) 

because i don't understand simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) and drive simoreg (6ra7085) (spindle) is cable wiring speed setpoint . it  isn't profibus cable.

and I don't understand simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) is call FDD or not? because I read user manual sinumerik 840Di can control only FDD for ADI 4 connection or I miss something?

I can't understand ,How to control simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) by ADI4 and CNC 840Di

Could someone can suggest to me?

Thank you

vee

Hello,

It is possible to control axes drives & Spindle drive (6RA70) on profibus. For 6RA70 DC drive, optional CBP2 card needs to be purchase & install. The part number you provided, 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1, is of servo power drive module. You need to select 611 U or D, appropriate control card for this 611 drive. Selection of ADI module & 611 U or D control card, depends upon your complete machine configuration, e.g. no of axes to be controlled, how many geometrical axes, number of rotary & linear axes, external positioning feed back system, type of external feed back, number of axes interpolation license requirement etc. etc.

For your information, 840Di PL system is phased out & new 840Di SL system is successor to old system. Moreover 6RA70 DC drive is also phased out product & new successor is 6RA80.

If you are not much familiar with sizing & selection of products, I suggest you to contact your nearest Siemens sales/service support office.

HTH.

 Hi, you will have hard WORK if you are new for using Siemens CNC and drive as well as PLC S7 300.

but my suggestion is as following:

#1--forget about ADI4, 840Di is very easy to control 611U/611UE, you have only one drive (FDD) part# should be 6SN1123-1AA00-0DA1--80A module. you need order from Siemens 611U control card for ENCODER feedback such as 6SN1118-0NH01-0AA1 together with option sub-module for profibus (the # I will check and post later)

#2--6RA70 DC drive,  CBP2 card needs to be purchase & install  ( PER "PISCEAN 2010")

#3-- YOU NEED PC or Laptop with SIMATIC MANAGER INSTALLED for set up.

Veeios

I have new project to think  about CNC 840Di profibus network connected with ADI 4 to control simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) and drive simoreg (6ra7085) (spindle) 

because i don't understand simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) and drive simoreg (6ra7085) (spindle) is cable wiring speed setpoint . it  isn't profibus cable.

and I don't understand simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) is call FDD or not? because I read user manual sinumerik 840Di can control only FDD for ADI 4 connection or I miss something?

I can't understand ,How to control simodrive 6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo) by ADI4 and CNC 840Di

Could someone can suggest to me?

Thank you

vee

Thank you . for all suggest to me

But I want to know ,Is it possible to use ADI4 to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)  by cable(+ - 10V) ?

because I want to make by me spare part on hand. I don't want to change to profibus network to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)

Best regards

Vee

Veeios

Thank you . for all suggest to me

But I want to know ,Is it possible to use ADI4 to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)  by cable(+ - 10V) ?

because I want to make by me spare part on hand. I don't want to change to profibus network to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)

Best regards

Vee

 Hello,

Your point is not clear. Once you says drive set point should be analog voltage +/- 10V. In another sentence you says you don't want to change profibus network. Please clear what you want exactly. From your description, I think with existing spare components you want to establish the set up to check/test spare parts. Is this correct? 

Also which motor & encoder you want to connect to this LT power module. With ADI4 & simodrive 611 universal E HRS control card, (+/- 10V set point) 611 drives can be control.

Hi, Friend, you make us confused. as  PISCEAN said

you should make clear what do you want!

I suggest you put all hardware you have together --taking pictures or copy Siemens part# --list here.

including motors , as 611A using different motor and feedback much more different than 611U

if you have CNC 840Di--it designed to use 611U--you have no so much freedom.

if you like let forum know--you experiences for Siemen CNC,drives and PLC. we will suggest you the direction --maybe better and less trouble on your way to your target.   

6SN1123-1AA00-0DA1 (please confirm, and take picture on parts#)--it is only a drive box, Siemens call power section--it can be used with 611A, 611D or 611U.

PS: after post answer, I just mind myself--611U can also be used as +/-10 analog set point control, but that is not main problem--the main problem is what is really you want to do and what HW you already have.

Veeios

Thank you . for all suggest to me

But I want to know ,Is it possible to use ADI4 to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)  by cable(+ - 10V) ?

because I want to make by me spare part on hand. I don't want to change to profibus network to control  6sn1123-1aa00-Da1(servo)

Best regards

Vee

I 'm so sorry to make confuse at my post.

because i'm not  understand about drive power module and control module 

now, I try to talk what I want 

I want to use 840Di by ADI 4 to control setpoint to drive control 6SC6112 ( because is wiring setpoint +-10V not profibus ) but i don't khow is it possible to do?

my spare is have ,840Di(PCU50) 

old one machine that i want to retrofit is only 6sn1123 ,6sc6112 and control NC is very old (not siemens brand) 

I don't want to change drive module and motor  ,I want to change only NC control  

I 'm many thank to answer my post  that make me to more understand.

Best regards

Vee

Hello,

OK. So you want to replace only CNC controller retaining drives as it is. Please provide following information.

1. Does machine axes has external feedback system? If yes, type & details?

2. How many axes are controlled? 

3. No of axes controlled by NC? by PLC?

4. Is this turning or milling machine?

5. Most important, do you have 840Di & PCU 50 as spare with you or you are planning to procure?

6. No of I/O of PLC. (Present I/O used including MCP, CNC keypad)

Please download & read following manuals.

ADI4 

840Di Basic machine

If any additional information is required, you may post specific query here.