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Shared-device controlled by a simotion D435?

Created by: Osld13 at: 9/16/2014 2:28 PM (14 Replies)

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9/16/2014 2:28 PM	Rate (0)
Osld13 Experienced Member Joined: 3/20/2012 Last visit: 1/6/2020 Posts: 106 Rating: (1)	Hello, Can a Simotion D435 (6AU1435-2AA00-0AA0) be an IO Controler of a Shared-device? The other IO controler will be an S7-314Pn CPU. The shared-device will be an ET200SP station. Thanks all. Olivier.

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ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 17611 Rating: (2131)	Hello, yes this is possible. Regards Christoph

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9/16/2014 3:09 PM	Rate (0)
Osld13 Experienced Member Joined: 3/20/2012 Last visit: 1/6/2020 Posts: 106 Rating: (1)	Thanks Christoph.

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12/9/2014 10:21 AM	Rate (0)
Min_Moderator Platinum Member Joined: 9/3/2014 Last visit: 3/13/2019 Posts: 5101 Rating: (117)	New question published byCMP is split to a separate thread with the subject CNC 840Sl, HW configuration project. Best regards Min_Moderator

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2/2/2016 2:25 PM	Rate (0)
Davinator Silver Member Joined: 1/4/2013 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 821 Rating: (58)	Dear all, sorry to dig out this old thread but it is better than remake a clone. I have searched in lot of places (google and siemens forums) but I cannot find a good guide to do what I need: I have a D425-2, TIA V13.1, with last HF, SSP, etc. I have profinet network with HMI, 17 G120Cs and one PLC 1214 F (safety PLC, yes). The 1214, due to its versatility, handles the safety STO for Sinamics and also carries almost all the I/O data that the Simotion should read and write, so almost all signals are connected to 1214 and Simotion should "see them". My confusion is this: I have used in the past, with EXTREME success the IO device, where basically under TIA I have set two exchange areas from two controllers (Simotion and 1500 F in that case), here Icould do the same thing to transport the input and output handling from 1214 to Simotion but I have to write code that mirrors the data coming from prfinet to the physical output. And this is obviously not the very best. I knew that the Shared device allows me to "automatically" makes that Simotion "sees" the periphery of 1214 as it was its OWN periphery, so I can handle directly the IO of the 1214 from D425-2. Any1 can help me please ? Danke in advance
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2/3/2016 7:38 AM	Rate (1)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 17611 Rating: (2131)	Hello, no a shared device don't allow to see the peripherie of the S7-1200. A shared device only shared the Interfacemodule to more then one Controller but not the I/O Modules. Each I/O module is assigned to one controller. Example: Device = Et200SP with 2 I/O Modules (M1 and M2) Now the Interface of the ET200 can assigne to both Controllers , but the Modules can only assign to one Controller. M1 assigned to C1 and M2 assigned to C2. C1 control M1, but C2 don't see the M1, M2 is controlled from C2, C1 don't see the M2. What you need is a Multiple Shared Input / Output (MSI/MSO) but at the moment this is only available for the S7-1500 PLC Family, not fpr the S7-1200 or SIMOTION. So the only way is what you described, you must copy the local I/O Signals to the PN Transferslots. Regards Christoph

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2/3/2016 11:02 AM	Rate (0)
Davinator Silver Member Joined: 1/4/2013 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 821 Rating: (58)	Danke Meister. In fact I was trying everywhere in TIA but nothing was helping me. So I will use the I-Device through Simotion und 1214-F where basically I send via profinet the input bytes and the Simotion is able to read them as "normal" peripheral. One other question if possible, Chris. I have an identical machine with same hardware and I would like to make them in communication . I can choose Simotion "1" to Simotion "2" or 1214 "1" to 1214 "2". Since shared device is not possible here and i Device is already used in the above mentioned manner, what would be the most smart way of making machines communicating ? I have to exchange some bits and eventually a couple of word, in total a space of 64 bits, not more. The two projects are under TIA but are separate, not in same single project. Danke again advance
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2/3/2016 11:33 AM	Rate (0)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 17611 Rating: (2131)	Davinator have an identical machine with same hardware and I would like to make them in communication . I can choose Simotion "1" to Simotion "2" or 1214 "1" to 1214 "2". Since shared device is not possible here and i Device is already used in the above mentioned manner, what would be the most smart way of making machines communicating ? I have to exchange some bits and eventually a couple of word, in total a space of 64 bits, not more. The two projects are under TIA but are separate, not in same single project. Hi, at the moment i don't understand the Configuration complete. You have 2 Machines , each whit a Simotion D and a S7-1200. Which devices should communicat? Simotion1 with Simotion1? S71200-1 with S7-1200-2 ? Or each device with each device? If you have really identical machines then it can be a problem if you connect it to the same Network because the IP and Name of Station should be unique in the network. Regards Christoph

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2/3/2016 11:52 AM	Rate (0)
Davinator Silver Member Joined: 1/4/2013 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 821 Rating: (58)	Hi Chris, yes, both machines are specular, both with Simotion and 1214F. Both are "different" TIA projects, so I do not have an unique project with two Simotion and two 1214F. 1) Machines are in the same IP class but clearly with different IPs and Profinet names. So they can co-hexist without problem. 2) Ok, to not make things complicated I wish to put in communication the two 1214 F. What is the smartest way without using PUT or GET or other strange Code instructions ? Danke in advance
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2/3/2016 12:09 PM	Rate (0)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 4/6/2020 Posts: 17611 Rating: (2131)	Hi, smartest way is io-device. The S7-1200 can act as IO-Controller to the simotion and sametime act as io-device to another controller. So if you set one S7-1200 to io-device and the other to controller you can communicate in this way. Regards Christoph

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