5/2/2012 8:25 AM | |
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It might not be the most popular things to suggest but as Siemens products are used worldwide, I wonder why this forum isn't English only. I think most people, who work with Siemens products for their job, also need to have some basic knowledge of the English language. Take care, my native language isn't english either but in my opinion, it's a pity that lots of subjects are discussed several times in different language part of the forum. Several examples or solutions are not seen cause they are answered in a different language part of the forum. I can read and understand some german and french as well but I can't reply to those threads cause my writing if not good enough. Anyway, the point is if this were an english written forum only, I think everyone can read all others' posts and respond to all and learn from all. One big family, you know...? It could save let's say 75% of moderators work too (reduce work from 4 language parts of the board to 1). Anyway, it's only a suggestion. Brgds. |
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5/2/2012 8:32 AM |
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Yoursis a good example for a realy senseless post. premium time - small talk time. |
5/2/2012 9:54 AM | |
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OFT Yes, of course you didn't like the "funny" idea. Specially during campaign is the time to clarify that. (Specially I don't think SteBo has exactly that in mind). It is not correct in ranking list to include a posts from other then international version of forum.A good idea is in German spoken of forum to have a separate campaign as there have a lot of members which aren't visit English version. Really I am impressed howVithani,Amit_86,Ammy,Lucky123...(staying in English version) are trying to get the first place in ranking list (just they are staying in first 10). Sorry guys - this is not possible. Back to the proposed idea of SteBo - yes, I am fully agree with him. If someone wants to share, to help - (as the main rule is - official language is English) write in English and here only. As there exist a lot of different spoken version of Siemens Automation. Almost all the countries has own spoken forum. Best regards, Hristo Mihalev
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5/2/2012 1:06 PM | |
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Dear Users, please, stay calm, ... I agree, that the english spoken conferences are more frequented. Roundabout 75 % of the posts are published within the english spoken part of the Technical Forum. And most of them aren't available within the german part. But there is a big german community too. Of course we thought about which languages should be available. And we decided consciously that we will start with these two languages. There are a lot of reasons. One is already given by Ayman Elotaifythat we are still a german company. I'm thinking it is a good way to offer as much people as possible the possibility to discuss difficult technical questions in their native language. It is difficult enough to find the correct words to describe the technical problems. If other languages getting more important here, maybe there will be third or forth, ... part of the Technical Forum available Meanwhile, I have to say, that every idea and every question is always welcome. We moderators are always very interested in your opinions. And of course during campaign all of you spend more time here. So it is comprehensible that exact during this time a lot of ideas about the platform and the community are published. I have to say, that we moderators will take some time to discuss about all the ideas in-depth internal. But all of them are noticed. Sorry for the late reply, but I could type my message as quick as the responses were published here Anyway, enjoy the campaign Best regards CS Moderator |
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5/4/2012 8:31 AM | |
Joined: 7/8/2009 Last visit: 8/5/2024 Posts: 1976 Rating: (477) |
Thanks UMENCHO for appriciation and I know its not Possible to get on the TOP with English version only. I felt same in last campaign also. Although we are trying hard, its being difficult to get max points for the day What I feel is, people who are in both Forum have additional advantage and more scope so in this way its being unfare competition I agree with you and suggested in other thread that there should be two differentcampaign or as you said, seperate ranking List Regards Devesh |
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5/4/2012 1:47 PM |
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Tooooooo late, I release the brake again already! |
5/4/2012 2:02 PM | |
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Hello SteBo yes, you may miss out on some good user based advice and discussions that take place in the German forum (and there is certainly an awful lot of LOGO stuff happening there if that is your cup of tea). If Siemens were to close down their German forum though, what you'll find is that a fair amount of users would possibly simply join a different German PLC forum instead of starting to post in the English Siemens forum (being able to use your mothertongue for reading and postingis a powerful thing). Putting aside that closing the German Siemens forum would not impress Siemens's German customers, you (and all others here who don't speak German) would be worse off too by that move. The reason for that is that Siemens Service & Support employees are active in the Siemens forum too. They also keep an eye out for interesting and/orfrequently posted questions and answers and may choose to convertthese into a new offical Siemens FAQ. These are now translated into all the otherlanguages and everyone can as such benefit from the German Siemens forum (hint, if you find a post worthy of becoming a FAQ, you can use the "Inform Moderator" button to let them know). @ all others who "complain" about the unfair advantage that users who speak German as well asEnglish have during the Premium Campaign,I wonder if we are perhaps taking the Campaign a tiny bit too serious? Sure, having seperate Campaigns for the German and International version of the forum would be fairer, but allow me to suggest you do your homework and check which of theGerman and English speaking users a.) actually posted in both forums and b.) are represented inthe ranking list (be it top 10 or 20 or whatever). You can find this out quite easily by going to the Ranking list, click on the users name and look at his threads, followed by changing the Forum to "Deutsch" click on "Rangliste", select the user anddisplay his German contributions by clicking on"Themen dieses Benutzers anzeigen". It seems also abit hypocriticalto methat none of the Experts here have also "complained" about the unfair advantage that us Experts have during the Premium Campaign (e.g. wecan post in the "Expert only" conference, have additional post monitor features, open threads lists etc.). On that note @UMENCHO: I'm pleased to see you had a change of mindand now find it unfair that there is only one combined German/English Campaign (if memory serves me right, you had no problem making use of the German forum during last years Campaign until you decided to gracefully exit from it) Truth be told, the message I'm getting here is thatsome begrudge IBN-Servicefor his number 1 placing in the ranking list and believe that it is simply due to him being active in the German as well as in the English forum. The way I see it,he is at that place because he simply does what the Campaign brief says to do, which is"be an active participant'. From what I can gather, he also achieves this without resorting to the "You scratch my back and I scratch your back Buddy rating" that tends to surface during Campaigns. Enough said, that's my two cents worth anyhow. |
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5/4/2012 3:12 PM | |
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Hello fritz I think you are right. I dont know about others but I took this campaign stuff too seriously and thought too much about that Anyways, that was just openion from my side for having added advantage but thats not much proved valid as you explained Another thing is, I already mentioned that I didnot wrote this thing because IBN is at first because i know him very well and I know he deserve to be first. He was there at the TOP from last 3 campaign so there is no doubt about that. I also know that he is very much active member during and apart campaign time and he published so many good posts that even any day he dont publish single one, then also he will get max points due to stars by the users who got Help from him I am once again saying, whatever I said was my point of view in direction of some user who are far behind not for me Again Sorry for all Misunderstandings Thanks for your nice explanation Regards Devesh Vithani |
Last edited by: Vithani at: 5/4/2012 3:14 PMI dont Like people driving Fast, thats the reason I overtake them ;) |
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