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Tia Portal on new Apple M1 chip

Created by: luka31 at: 5/22/2021 7:26 PM (65 Replies)

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5/22/2021 7:26 PM	Rate (0)
luka31 Advanced Member Joined: 4/3/2017 Last visit: 8/7/2025 Posts: 69 Rating: (1)	Hi, has someone tried Tia portal on macbooks with M1 chip? Does it work and if it works, how it performs?

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5/24/2021 3:49 PM	Rate (0)
0_Einstein Diamond Expert Joined: 7/7/2010 Last visit: 8/29/2025 Posts: 16048 Rating: (2512)	You mean has anyone installed windows 10 on a macbook with the M1 chip, and then installed TIA portal? Native (like dual booting), or using a VM? luka31 Hi, has someone tried Tia portal on macbooks with M1 chip? Does it work and if it works, how it performs?
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5/24/2021 10:05 PM	Rate (0)
jwilcoxson Experienced Member Joined: 2/22/2014 Last visit: 11/19/2024 Posts: 102 Rating: (22)	Not possible at this time. M1 Macs don't have Bootcamp, and can't run x86-64 VMs. You can run a Windows VM, but it is only the Windows on ARM tech preview, which TIA won't run on. Apples Rosetta 2 translation layer, which translates x86 macOS binaries to ARM, cannot run virtualization software either.

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5/30/2021 1:19 PM	Rate (1)
SLSup Member Joined: 5/30/2021 Last visit: 5/13/2023 Posts: 1 Rating: (1)	jwilcoxson Not possible at this time. M1 Macs don't have Bootcamp, and can't run x86-64 VMs. You can run a Windows VM, but it is only the Windows on ARM tech preview, which TIA won't run on. Apples Rosetta 2 translation layer, which translates x86 macOS binaries to ARM, cannot run virtualization software either. Not true. With Parallels for mac and a W10 ARM preview image TIA portal is running just fine. Only profinet communication is not working on any network adapters for me at the moment.

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5/31/2021 2:34 AM	Rate (1)
Dec Gold Member Joined: 5/19/2006 Last visit: 8/21/2025 Posts: 550 Rating: (107)	SLSup jwilcoxson Not possible at this time. M1 Macs don't have Bootcamp, and can't run x86-64 VMs. You can run a Windows VM, but it is only the Windows on ARM tech preview, which TIA won't run on. Apples Rosetta 2 translation layer, which translates x86 macOS binaries to ARM, cannot run virtualization software either. Not true. With Parallels for mac and a W10 ARM preview image TIA portal is running just fine. Only profinet communication is not working on any network adapters for me at the moment. Did you try Profibus communication? It should work via Bluetooth on M1. Dec

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6/26/2021 4:03 PM	Rate (0)
AutoGen_7971183 Member Joined: 2/2/2017 Last visit: 4/17/2023 Posts: 1 Rating: (0)	That's interesting. I agree that TIA runs on M1 Mac under Windows on Arm but License Manager is not running. Any suggestions to this?

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6/27/2021 9:33 AM	Rate (5)
K_Ohjus Gold Expert Joined: 3/5/2017 Last visit: 8/21/2025 Posts: 780 Rating: (130)	Hi, I really do not get why people are trying to use Macs for everything. If you work in the field of programming (PLC), you most certainly would not have Mac. Yes, i understand if you are a student and have no choice(actually you did have a choice, but made a really bad one). There was a time when Macintosh was good and had capabilities that PC did not, nowadays it is a very expensive paper weight. But teens like it, cos its so cool and white. In the 90's you sounded like a professional if you had a Mac, sadly today first thing that comes in mind is thirteen year old girl. [snip]. Point is that why to make things harder and use equipment that is not suitable for the job. I bet i can cook my christmas ham in my washing machine, but i choose not to.
	Last edited by: Jen_Moderator at: 06/28/2021 06:12:33 Removed inappropriate words. - Trying is the first step towards failure. - Singing while you work is not happiness, it's mental illness. - Kaikki on paskaa, paitsi kusi.
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7/23/2021 7:55 PM	Rate (1)
and313 Posts: 3 Rating: (1)	why would i want to use an intel i9 macbook which runs hot all the time uses a lot of power and costs 3500e while there is a 1400 macbook air which can run everything without a fan and has the best battery life on the market and enough horsepower to do it all? not even intel windows laptops come close at this price point at what you get at apple. its a better product and right now they are leading the arm field which is the future.some just like to buy the best thing they can buy when they buy it.... paperweight.... plus some people dont need all the io you probably need....
and313 Posts: 3 Rating: (1)	Last edited by: and313 at: 07/23/2021 20:00:38
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7/23/2021 7:58 PM	Rate (0)
and313 Posts: 3 Rating: (1)	the license manager is a 32bit process and it wont run until it is rewritten for 64bit.. its the only 32bit process that remains so AutoGen_7971183 That's interesting. I agree that TIA runs on M1 Mac under Windows on Arm but License Manager is not running. Any suggestions to this?
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7/27/2021 2:51 PM	Rate (3)
jwilcoxson Experienced Member Joined: 2/22/2014 Last visit: 11/19/2024 Posts: 102 Rating: (22)	I used a Mac for PLC programming for quite a long time. Since all my software was in VMs, it worked out great, and I largely prefer macOS for "general" computer use. People have different needs and preferences, and if it makes someone happy to use a MacBook or a ThinkPad or some Linux laptop, then it's fine to let them be happy and get their work done. K_Ohjus Hi, I really do not get why people are trying to use Macs for everything. If you work in the field of programming (PLC), you most certainly would not have Mac. Yes, i understand if you are a student and have no choice(actually you did have a choice, but made a really bad one). There was a time when Macintosh was good and had capabilities that PC did not, nowadays it is a very expensive paper weight. But teens like it, cos its so cool and white. In the 90's you sounded like a professional if you had a Mac, sadly today first thing that comes in mind is thirteen year old girl. [snip]. Point is that why to make things harder and use equipment that is not suitable for the job. I bet i can cook my christmas ham in my washing machine, but i choose not to.

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7/27/2021 2:53 PM	Rate (0)
jwilcoxson Experienced Member Joined: 2/22/2014 Last visit: 11/19/2024 Posts: 102 Rating: (22)	Very interesting! I knew ARM Windows had a translation layer for x86 compatibility, but figured there was no chance TIA would run well on it. How's your experience been so far on it? SLSup jwilcoxson Not possible at this time. M1 Macs don't have Bootcamp, and can't run x86-64 VMs. You can run a Windows VM, but it is only the Windows on ARM tech preview, which TIA won't run on. Apples Rosetta 2 translation layer, which translates x86 macOS binaries to ARM, cannot run virtualization software either. Not true. With Parallels for mac and a W10 ARM preview image TIA portal is running just fine. Only profinet communication is not working on any network adapters for me at the moment.

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7/27/2021 7:10 PM	Rate (0)
K_Ohjus Gold Expert Joined: 3/5/2017 Last visit: 8/21/2025 Posts: 780 Rating: (130)	Hi, I always work with VM's with TIA or any automation software, if those function without problem on MAC I stand corrected. I would always prefer Linux over Windows but sadly most programs are designed for Windows and in my experience VM's with Win programs work best with Windows. I like to separate my personal life from work, so even though I use Linux on my own computer, I'm happy to us Windows at work, it makes work life so much easier. jwilcoxson I used a Mac for PLC programming for quite a long time. Since all my software was in VMs, it worked out great, and I largely prefer macOS for "general" computer use. People have different needs and preferences, and if it makes someone happy to use a MacBook or a ThinkPad or some Linux laptop, then it's fine to let them be happy and get their work done. K_Ohjus Hi, I really do not get why people are trying to use Macs for everything. If you work in the field of programming (PLC), you most certainly would not have Mac. Yes, i understand if you are a student and have no choice(actually you did have a choice, but made a really bad one). There was a time when Macintosh was good and had capabilities that PC did not, nowadays it is a very expensive paper weight. But teens like it, cos its so cool and white. In the 90's you sounded like a professional if you had a Mac, sadly today first thing that comes in mind is thirteen year old girl. [snip]. Point is that why to make things harder and use equipment that is not suitable for the job. I bet i can cook my christmas ham in my washing machine, but i choose not to.
	- Trying is the first step towards failure. - Singing while you work is not happiness, it's mental illness. - Kaikki on paskaa, paitsi kusi.
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8/6/2021 6:56 AM	Rate (1)
garjl Member Joined: 10/30/2006 Last visit: 10/2/2024 Posts: 2 Rating: (1)	Far from trying to create a Mac vs PC debate - you clearly haven't used a MAC with baseless comments like that. I run a 2013 version MAcbook Pro - still a quantum leap from ANY PC I have on my desktop (I have 6) - so yeah - getting TIA portal working on M1 is topical. Nothing to do with looking cool - more to do with running cool. Back on topic - I'm more concerned about peripherals - I never used Parallels but Fusion has never missed a beat with connecting to Profinet/MPI Very interested if there is any input from Siemens on this - where is the bottleneck?

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8/16/2021 7:30 PM	Rate (0)
RicardoCT Posts: 1 Rating: (0)	which version of tia portal are you using on mac m1, i can not find any info about how to install, and i already have parallels. SLSup jwilcoxson Not possible at this time. M1 Macs don't have Bootcamp, and can't run x86-64 VMs. You can run a Windows VM, but it is only the Windows on ARM tech preview, which TIA won't run on. Apples Rosetta 2 translation layer, which translates x86 macOS binaries to ARM, cannot run virtualization software either. Not true. With Parallels for mac and a W10 ARM preview image TIA portal is running just fine. Only profinet communication is not working on any network adapters for me at the moment.
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1/23/2022 9:42 PM	Rate (0)
ApfelSaft87 Advanced Member Joined: 2/27/2014 Last visit: 8/27/2025 Posts: 24 Rating: (0)	Which Version of Win10 are you using? Win10 will always ask you to update to Win11 and Win10 is only downloadable via Uup-dump. [snip]
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2/15/2022 10:44 PM	Rate (1)
FatBoy55 Member Joined: 1/16/2016 Last visit: 10/19/2022 Posts: 1 Rating: (1)	Because Macs don't crash and they don't get hacked. &BTW they are faster running Windows even with the VM. Get a Mac and don't look back...

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2/16/2022 10:40 AM	Rate (0)
8Noodles Silver Member Joined: 8/3/2017 Last visit: 6/11/2024 Posts: 1086 Rating: (53)	Macs don't get hacked?! In 2018 an 16 year old boy was successful with hacking apple https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/17/melbourne-teen-pleads-guilty-to-hacking-into-apple-network Every system has his advantages/ disadvantages.. there is no "ultimate system"
	Please, check out the forum search to find already existing topics regarding your issue and to get some hints.
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2/25/2022 3:32 PM	Rate (0)
K_Ohjus Gold Expert Joined: 3/5/2017 Last visit: 8/21/2025 Posts: 780 Rating: (130)	I agree that Mac can Be better than PC in Many Fields, but industrial automation is not one of those. Choose equipment suitable For The Job. Macs did not Have Any hacking issues Back in The Day when practically no one used it. Why would anyone bother to harash some photo editor.
	- Trying is the first step towards failure. - Singing while you work is not happiness, it's mental illness. - Kaikki on paskaa, paitsi kusi.
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4/7/2022 3:03 PM	Rate (0)
luka31 Advanced Member Joined: 4/3/2017 Last visit: 8/7/2025 Posts: 69 Rating: (1)	Any improvements on this topic? luka31 Hi, has someone tried Tia portal on macbooks with M1 chip? Does it work and if it works, how it performs?

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4/29/2022 6:02 PM	Rate (0)
ChristophD Grandmaster-Expert Joined: 5/12/2006 Last visit: 9/1/2025 Posts: 22709 Rating: (3071)	no news on this topic. TIA portal not released for Windows ARM and not hearing that this would be changed

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