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Created by: Aniket S Dange at: 5/18/2012 6:54 AM (8 Replies)

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5/18/2012 6:54 AM	Rate (1)
Aniket S Dange Posts: 22 Rating: (3)	HELLO FRIENDS!!! CAN ANYBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS RING REDUNDANCT IN SIMPLE TERMS?
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5/18/2012 9:35 AM	Rate (1)
Mike J Platinum Member Joined: 10/9/2007 Last visit: 11/5/2024 Posts: 1251 Rating: (115)	Hi Are you talking about network? RSTP? MRP? Mike
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Ammy Platinum Member Joined: 4/19/2008 Last visit: 9/3/2024 Posts: 1525 Rating: (159)	Aniket S Dange HELLO FRIENDS!!! CAN ANYBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS RING REDUNDANCT IN SIMPLE TERMS? Hello Aniket, Demonstration System "Redundancy Mechanisms" in industrial networks with SCALANCE X It was Strang, for each of your Post Question you are getting Star.....
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Amit_86 Platinum Member Joined: 3/18/2008 Last visit: 12/8/2023 Posts: 1750 Rating: (272)	Hello, Check this out. Very nice documemnt from Siemens explains the Redundancy mechanisam. Ammy you are right. (BUT NICE VIDEO) OFFTOPIC: I hope above two answers will also derserve the stars Attachment Redundancy mechanisms_MRP.zip (637 Downloads)
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5/20/2012 11:40 AM	Rate (2)
KD.. Posts: 25 Rating: (7)	In 'Simple' terms, Lets say you have four PLCs (PLC1, PLC2, PLC3 and PLC4) on network. In Open typenetworkthe cable will be connected from PCL1 to PLC2 to PLC3 to PLC4 In case network between PLC2to PLC3 fails then PLC1 will not be able to communicate with PLC3 and PLC4 and connection between PLC1 and PLC2 shall remain functional Now, to improve redundancy you will add another network between PLC4 to PLC1 and make PLC1 as Redundancy Manager (RM)(it is functionality of Ethernet switch with RM capability) This architecture is called Ring Network In this case if network fails between any of the PLCs, all the communication shallremain intact from other side of thering. This is called Ring Redundancy. Regards, KD...
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Ton Verra Gold Member Joined: 4/20/2007 Last visit: 11/7/2024 Posts: 728 Rating: (43)	simple terms? you got multiple devices connected on a line. the last station will loop back to the first station. when you connect line in a circle, the trafic will go both ways, and reach the devices twice, from both sides. this will give error, since the device doesn't know what to do in the end and/or will answer twice. this is solved by putting a redudancy mananger somewhere in the ring. this will open the ring again. the RM will check if there is a break in the line somewhere, and if so, it will close the ring until the break disapears. I have been using a Scalance switch for this, very simple to set up.

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5/20/2012 10:43 PM	Rate (1)
Mike J Platinum Member Joined: 10/9/2007 Last visit: 11/5/2024 Posts: 1251 Rating: (115)	Hi You allhave explained how HSR (High speed redundancy, not to be confused with High Availability Seamless Redundancy) works. But the colleague Aniketdidn't answer if this is what he needs. Scalance switches may also work with RSTP and other switches, like Hirschmann, also have other protocols such as MRP. All of them controls the "ring" redundancy. Mike
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5/21/2012 7:16 AM	Rate (0)
Aniket S Dange Posts: 22 Rating: (3)	Thank you friend for giving a clear and simple description.
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Jen_Moderator Diamond Member Joined: 6/19/2017 Last visit: 9/6/2024 Posts: 8175 Rating: (172)	New question published by Africa Support is split to a separate thread with the subject RSTP settings between RSG2100 switch and Siprotec 4 relays. Best regards Jen_Moderator

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