2/13/2015 3:29 PM | |
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Greeting, Could you please advice as attached Conceptual layout network, will this work in WinCC Client/Server ring network on Profinet or Industrial Ethernet Connection. There are two network for Client/Server solution Profinet and LAN as attached, This requires a network connection (TCP/IP) between the server computer and the connected clients. Can we merge these network over one network Profinet or Industrial Ethernet with Combination of SCALANCE IE and FOC switches on Ring network as attached conceptual layout..?? There are also restrictions for maximum length of PROFINET/Industrial Ethernet as we know PN: 10 to 100 MBit/s and maximum distance of two partner electrical 100 meter. and the maximal number of partners in a PROFINET IO network is also restricted to 512 but in our case these will be Max. 8 in future now these are 3. Regard's AttachmentDesktop.zip (316 Downloads) |
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2/16/2015 10:24 AM | |
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Many thanks for message, yes the Web-Clients running inside of an Internet-Explorer, the other (basic) Clients are running directly on the PC but what will the speed difference and refresh rate, navigation speed, data logging, tag processing speed and system attitude, Will this same on both option OR different.
Please see attached network configuration is it right concept, and for Server PC which one CP will require CP1612 A2 or CP1623, can we done this with only CP1612 A2 at each PC because redundancy not needed. Regard's AttachmentDesktop.zip (240 Downloads) |
Last edited by: Sarfraz Bhatti at: 2/16/2015 10:56:16 AMMS |
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2/16/2015 10:53 AM | |
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Hello Muhammad Sarfraz, to your questions 1. the Web-Clients running inside of an Internet-Explorer, the other (basic) Clients are running directly on the PC but what will the speed difference and refresh rate, navigation speed, data logging, tag processing speed and system attitude, Will this same on both option OR different. --> This depends on the speed of the network. If the Web-Clients are running in the local LAN, there is no remarkable difference in the speed.
--> You need a WinCC-Server-license, if you have set the projecttyp to "Multi-User-Project". If you have Web-Clients, you can use "Single-User-Project" on the WinCC-WebServer. You can connect up to 32 WinCC-Basic-Clients to a WinCC-Basic-Server SIMATIC WINCC RT CLIENT V7.3 (6AV6381-2CA07-3AX0) having 128 tags if we exceed the tags limit then what will happen at client PC..?? --> A WinCC-Client has no process tags, therefore the smallest license RT 128 is used, you can not exeed the tag limit. Please see attached network configuration is it right concept, and for Server PC which one CP will require CP1612 A2 or CP1623, can we done this with only CP1612 A2 at each PC. --> The concept is OK. A CP1612 is nothing other then a common network adapter, but it is special testet for using in these environment. The CP1623 has an own controller on its board, which makes the communication work, instead of the CPU of the PC with the CP1612. Regards Georg Berghof
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2/16/2015 11:39 AM | |
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Dear Sir, Thanks for message, --> A WinCC-Client has no process tags, therefore the smallest license RT 128 is used, you can not exceed the tag limit. little bit confusion about above answer, Can we monitor all screens except alarm history, data archiving at client PC which is configured and design at Server PC, if server PC have WINCC V7.3 RC 8192 tags (6AV6381-2BS07-3AX0) license and WINCC/SERVER V7.3 (6AV6371-1CA07-3AX0) license..??? is it mean we will design and configure Screens but which have only max. 128 Tags on Client PC but we can monitor and control all Screens which are design and configured based on 8192 tags at Server PC am i right Sir..??
in WinCC Web Navigator 1 x WebServer 3 x Webclient solution we will create Single User Project and WINCC/WEB NAVIGATOR V7.0, 3 CLIENTS (6AV6371-1DH07-3AX0) license will require according to number of clients and max. 32 client can connected, am i right Sir..??? In WinCC 1 x Server 5 x client Solution we will create multi user project and WINCC/SERVER V7.3 (6AV6371-1CA07-3AX0) will require at Server PC and SIMATIC WINCC RT CLIENT V7.3 (6AV6381-2CA07-3AX0) will be installed on each Client PC and max. number of client 32 can connected, am i right Sir..??? If we want to share the data and redundancy the between 2 x Server and 5 x Clients then we will create multi user project and will use CP1623 for redundancy on Server PC and CP1612 for other PC's, and softwre will be as following. WinCC 2 x Server 5x Clients
am i right Sir..???
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2/16/2015 1:02 PM | |
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Hello Muhammad Sarfraz, to your questions: 1. Can we monitor all screens except alarm history, data archiving at client PC which is configured and design at Server PC, if server PC have WINCC V7.3 RC 8192 tags (6AV6381-2BS07-3AX0) license and WINCC/SERVER V7.3 (6AV6371-1CA07-3AX0) license..??? --> Yes, the Client has no own process tag, only this counts for the license. We have writing which we conceive from above answer. --> The maximum of 32 Clients was releated to the Basic-Runtime (no Web-Navigator). With WebNavigator you can have up to 8 Web-Clients, if you use a Workstation-OS like Windows 7 for the Web-Server, if you use a Server-OS like Windows 2008 Server, you can connect up to 100 Clients.
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SIMATIC S7 2010 SP3 (6ES7810-5CC11-0YA5) = 1nos. WINCC RC 8192, V7.3 (6AV6381-2BS07-3AX0) = 2nos. WINCC/SERVER V7.3 (6AV6371-1CA07-3AX0) = 2nos. SIMATIC WINCC RT CLIENT V7.3 (6AV6381-2CA07-3AX0) = 5nos. --> If you would like to use a redundant pair of WinCC-Servers you need futhermore a license for the option Redundancy, 6AV6371-1CF07-3AX0. Regards Georg Berghof |
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