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How many years of experience do you have??

RNF(Antares):lblSharedThreadHeader_CreatedBy AMAZINGAHMED RNF(Antares):lblSharedThreadHeader_Started 5/10/2012 2:00 PM (62 RNF(Antares):lblSharedThreadHeader_Replies)

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5/14/2012 8:55 PM
IBN-Service RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 8946 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (988)	Amit_86 '... May be in next time in Germany as caretaker...

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5/14/2012 9:07 PM
Amit_86 RNF(Antares):lblBadge-PlatinMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 3/18/2008 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 7/28/2020 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 1750 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (263)	IBN-Service Amit_86 '... May be in next time in Germany as caretaker... Super Joke..... Anything else
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5/15/2012 3:58 AM
Vithani RNF(Antares):lblBadge-PlatinMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 7/8/2009 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 9/5/2020 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 1973 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (473)	SolutionFinder I don't believe in Experience? I just want know about the knowledge. That is right More experienced guy may have more knowledge but sometime lesser experienced person may solve the problem quickly because of its knowledge. Anyway Let Me introduce to all about myself, I have good knowledge of S7-200,S7-300 (R) ,S7-400 (H,R), Wincc Flexible,Wincc Etc. Even Sometimes PCS-7. And right now I have my own business with the automation field. To take projects for Automation Jobs & commission. Can you judge my Experience? I too agree with your comment. ofcourse what Darius said is right too but you cant judge people always on No of years they passed in Field I had this experience in Past. I was in Gulf on one Project and at that time I didnt even completed one year as an Employee. At that time one guy from that companycommented on Me, that he doesnt need Guy who is 21years old instead he need someone who have 21 years of Experience. But after work completed, he was my Fan and for next time, he asked for me to have at his site for comissioning from my company. So as SF said, sometimes Lesser Exp also can work better
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5/15/2012 6:34 AM
IBN-Service RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 8946 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (988)	Vithani ... someone who have 21 years of Experience. ... Experience in automation will fade out a little after 20 years because technology changes very fast. After 20 Years you can use, lets say, only 50% of experience, much other things has changed. Also there is a very wise hint: RTFM. Specially with Siemens equipment.

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5/15/2012 6:37 AM
IBN-Service RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 8946 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (988)	Amit_86 [you are in my hit list as i release the brakes. Dont drink and drive, or I will not give you the key for my BATMOBILE.

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5/15/2012 7:47 AM
AMAZINGAHMED RNF(Antares):lblBadge-GoldMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 8/27/2006 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 1/18/2021 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 706 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (86)	Vithani SolutionFinder I don't believe in Experience? I just want know about the knowledge. That is right More experienced guy may have more knowledge but sometime lesser experienced person may solve the problem quickly because of its knowledge. Anyway Let Me introduce to all about myself, I have good knowledge of S7-200,S7-300 (R) ,S7-400 (H,R), Wincc Flexible,Wincc Etc. Even Sometimes PCS-7. And right now I have my own business with the automation field. To take projects for Automation Jobs & commission. Can you judge my Experience? I too agree with your comment. ofcourse what Darius said is right too but you cant judge people always on No of years they passed in Field I had this experience in Past. I was in Gulf on one Project and at that time I didnt even completed one year as an Employee. At that time one guy from that companycommented on Me, that he doesnt need Guy who is 21years old instead he need someone who have 21 years of Experience. But after work completed, he was my Fanand for next time, he asked for me to have at his site for comissioning from my company. So as SF said, sometimes Lesser Exp also can work better Its not a general rule that a guy with less experience could beat a more experienced one, but its the exception. A more experienced guy has seen much solutions and faced much problems, that when he faces an ostacle, he can over come more quickly than a guy with less experience. In the case (exception) that a guy with a less experience solves the problem then it's due to difference in intelligence level maybe. When I started my career after college, I used to solve few problems that my older colleagues couldn't solve. But that was because I studied many programming languages, read many algorithms and went into 3D modeling. IBN-Service Vithani ... someone who have 21 years of Experience. ... Experience in automation will fade out a little after 20 years because technology changes very fast. After 20 Years you can use, lets say, only 50% of experience, much other things has changed. Also there is a very wise hint: RTFM. Specially with Siemens equipment. I think old experience helps to understand new technology. In the past I used to work under DOS, and when windows was introduced, guys who didn't see DOS faced many problems than could be easily solved using the command prompt. I think knowledge + experience must be side by side to be a successful engineer. And the more you know, the more you know you don't know
	The more you know, The more you know that you don't know
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5/15/2012 8:11 AM
Darius RNF(Antares):lblBadge-PlatinMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 9/28/2005 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 9/16/2020 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 2957 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (234)	AMAZINGAHMED When I started my career after college, I used to solve few problems that my older colleagues couldn't solve. But that was because I studied many programming languages, read many algorithms and went into 3D modeling. You are comparing different things. If your older and more experienced colleques would have studied the same for +10 years than you than you get no chance. Believe me. Now you comparing yourself with people who has no idea in your application (maybe). We can't have experience in all areas. For example, I have some experience in food industry and Siemens and I really never beat anyone in for example oil industry, because it has its own specifics.
	Best regards, Darius
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5/15/2012 8:31 AM
UMENCHO RNF(Antares):lblBadge-DiamondMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 3/21/2006 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 1/7/2021 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 10217 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (1158)	Do you think that staying in one field lead to be lazy (not exactly, just can not find the right english), more conservative and finally loosing the flexibility and faster adaptation to the changes around? Because according to me much expirience means possibility to adapt yourself as fastest as possible in case you chnage the field (in our case industry). Best regards, Hristo Mihalev

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5/15/2012 8:42 AM
Darius RNF(Antares):lblBadge-PlatinMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 9/28/2005 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 9/16/2020 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 2957 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (234)	Well. It depends. If you are good at PLC, C++, 3D design, food process, gas proccess, machinery and aviation then I think you are not good anywhere. But thats my point. What I wanted to say. For example food industry. Have you any idea on how much years of experience do you need to be good at it. I know lots of people in beer industry who work all life 30+ years experience in that industry and they are super good at it and still do not know everything. For me, PLC is not the limit. I want to know process internals and if you change your industry, you'll never know internals. But that's me. We all are different.
	Best regards, Darius
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5/15/2012 8:46 AM
Amit_86 RNF(Antares):lblBadge-PlatinMembers RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Joined 3/18/2008 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_LastVisit 7/28/2020 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Posts 1750 RNF(Antares):lblSharedPostList_Rating (263)	IBN-Service Vithani ... someone who have 21 years of Experience. ... Experience in automation will fade out a little after 20 years because technology changes very fast. After 20 Years you can use, lets say, only 50% of experience, much other things has changed. Also there is a very wise hint: RTFM. Specially with Siemens equipment. I am Completely agree with you. you have to keep updating yourself with new technology to sustain in the market. But with Such more experience there is always benefit too. Example: When Conversion jobs took place like S5 to S7(which is the case now a days at least i have seen in india) , you will feel some comfort while executing such job which will not be the case for every one having less experience. i hope you understand my point.
	VANDE MATARAM.....
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